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Jacques van Oene
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posted 03-09-2007 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Soyuz TMA-10 crew patch:


Credit: NASA TV

This patch was designed by Alex Panchenko and there are three versions of this patch, one each with a red, blue and black outer border.

KSCartist
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posted 03-09-2007 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like this one. It's one of Pachenko's best work.

johntosullivan
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posted 03-09-2007 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johntosullivan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I particularly like the off-target cross-hairs on final approach.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-09-2007 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by johntosullivan:
I particularly like the off-target cross-hairs on final approach.
In fact, they're on-target -- literally. The cross hairs appear to be pointing to the docking target, which is off-center to the docking adapter.

johntosullivan
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posted 03-10-2007 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johntosullivan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I stand corrected.

Bill Hunt
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posted 03-28-2007 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are three versions, but are there three versions for sale? I've only seen two on Alex's website.

Jacques van Oene
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posted 03-29-2007 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NASA got the wrong image, the patch changed, (according to Panchenko, but I do not know why the crew is still wearing the old patch on their Sokol suits as seen on yesterday's photos from Baikonour). The stars were removed at the request of the commander, and there are other changes to, so I do not know were NASA got the image from but I think not from Panchenko...

Panchenko has the "right" patch on his site...

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-29-2007 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting... of course, we've had this discussion before (coincidentally about another of Panchenko's designs): what makes a patch "official"?

The TMA-10 patch with stars has now appeared in the formal Sokol portraits for the crew (e.g. 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5) and on NASA TV (above). Does that make it official?

What if NASA uses this artwork for their patch display at the front of Mission Control (and ditto for the Russian TsUP)?

Mike Z
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posted 03-29-2007 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Z   Click Here to Email Mike Z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The patch on the photos are different than those on Panchenko's site. His do not have the three stars that are on the Russian Sokol suits. The colors and borders differ too. I wonder who made the patches worn by the cosmonauts? The stitching in the ISS is different too.

KSCartist
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posted 03-29-2007 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My rule of thumb is to regard whatever patch is worn by the crew on launch day as the official" one.

Otherwise you can just get a headache trying to keep up.

Jacques van Oene
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posted 03-31-2007 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the crew will wear the patches with the stars on their Sokol suits during launch, and when they are in space on the suits they wear there you will see patches without stars... So both are "official" only it will be hard to get a patch with stars I think...

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posted 04-07-2007 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

pargoo
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posted 04-07-2007 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pargoo   Click Here to Email pargoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think no matter what they describe as 'official', future generations will look at the launch footage and THAT is the patch that will be collected by space enthusiasts. And it looks much nicer with the stars anyway.

Interesting to see they used the three-name Expedition 15 patch, too...

Jacques van Oene
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posted 04-11-2007 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No stars on the patch when they came aboard ISS...

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