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Jacques van Oene
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posted July 05, 2006 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The STS-116 and STS-117 patches can now be seen on www.spacepatches.nl

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KSCartist
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posted July 06, 2006 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Jacques-

Thanks for the update. I have a question maybe you or some of our cS friends can answer.

On the 115 patch they illustrate the P6 truss at its current location-and they add a starboard solar wing.

On the 116 patch there is one on the port side and two on the starboard side. Which makes sense if they relocate P6 to its permanent location.

On the 117 patch they only have one on the port side and one on the starboard side. The wing on the port side is highlighted in gold to illustrate that they are bringing that piece up.

Can anyone explain this apparent descrepancy? Or is it that the patches were designed long ago and the manifest has been reworked.

Tim

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Jacques van Oene
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posted July 06, 2006 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure about this but I belive that before STS-107, STS-116 was only a crew rotationg mission... and the original STS-116 patch was desinged before February 2003....

The current manifest is this:

STS-115: Second port truss segment (ITS P3/P4)
Second set of solar arrays and batteries

STS-116: Third port truss segment (ITS P5)
SPACEHAB single cargo module
Integrated Cargo Carrier (ICC)

STS-117: Second starboard truss segment (ITS S3/S4) with Photovoltaic Radiator
Third set of solar arrays and batteries

STS-118: SPACEHAB Single Cargo Module
Third starboard truss segment (ITS S5)
External Stowage Platform 3 (ESP3)


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tncmaxq
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posted July 21, 2006 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tncmaxq   Click Here to Email tncmaxq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
115 and 116 are pretty cool I think. 117 I don't care for but that's just me. ;-) Interesting that there hasn't been a regular circular insignia for a shuttle mission for a while.

If anyone knows where I can get the smaller version of shuttle mission lapel pins (smaller than 1") let me know. I'd like to get one for 115 since I hope to be at that launch.

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posted July 25, 2006 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for snf13   Click Here to Email snf13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12A.1 (STS-116) is the only one that is really not represented acurately. This patch has been designed for quite a few yeras now, but at no time did we have three arrays at the completion of that flight. 13A accurately shows the addition of S3/S4 and the second half of P6 retracted (first half is retracted on 12A.1).

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posted July 25, 2006 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting point...I'm not sure if that's supposed to be three arrays or all four final configuration, but the ISS is incorrect in either case.

I'm surprised they did not correct it.

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KSCartist
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posted July 25, 2006 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thinking it over it could be that they were illustrating the completed ISS. After all there is precedence, Expeditions 1,3,5,6,8 all did the same.

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Ben
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posted July 25, 2006 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea, but they recently made it 'official' in not-so-many words that the Russian power platform (the arrays on the z-axis) were cancelled, among other things.

Maybe they will read this topic and make it better ;-)

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KSCartist
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posted July 26, 2006 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend of mind in Houston heard the Russian Science Tower referred to as the Science Fiction Tower.

Apparently there were doubts about it for a while.

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posted August 20, 2006 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarQuest   Click Here to Email StarQuest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 116 patch depicts the completed ISS with all the truss segments. You can clearly see two radiators on the starboard side, so there are S3/S4 and S6 (STS-119) in this configuration. The Russian Power Platform and Solar Arrays are also there, but were cancelled as said. So this is a mistake that was not corrected.

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posted August 20, 2006 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarQuest   Click Here to Email StarQuest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, there is another nice detail in the description text:

"The seven stars of the constellation Ursa Major are used to provide direction to the North Star, which is superimposed over the installation location of the P5 truss on ISS."

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Tom
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posted August 24, 2006 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With Reiter scheduled to return on "116", I'm kind of surprised they didn't have his name along side Williams on the patch tab.
I guess they'll modify it as we get closer to the flight.

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Jacques van Oene
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posted August 25, 2006 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The STS-116 patch will NOT be updated with Reiters name...If you reed the page for the STS-116 patch on my site you could have read what Christer Fuglesangs has to say about it....

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Robert Pearlman
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posted September 22, 2006 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Newly arrived (and available): STS-116 and STS-117 patches from AB Emblem.

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posted April 18, 2007 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PowerCat   Click Here to Email PowerCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IF Clayton Anderson is launched aboard STS-117 in June, what does this do to design of the patch? Will they add an "Anderson" tab on the bottom. And of course the redesigns of the STS-118 and STS-120 patches are also forthcoming IF the ISS crew switch takes place one mission earlier. Set the August record, Suni...PLEASE!

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Jacques van Oene
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posted April 18, 2007 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have only one advise, buy the STS-118 patch now, before it get changed !! (and also the 117 patch) and yes Tab is an option for 117...

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KSCartist
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posted April 18, 2007 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In addition to putting the "Anderson" tab on STS-117, would they just omit Anderson from the STS-118 patch? Or would they replace Anderson on 118 with Dan Tani and if so would they put the next US atronaut in line for a tour on the ISS on STS-120.

IMHO they should let Tani still go up on STS-120 and let Anderson stay longer.

So here's how that shakes out:
add Anderson (tab) to STS-117
omit Anderson from STS-118
leave STS-120 alone

What do you folks think?

Tim

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Tom
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posted April 18, 2007 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If they decide to bring Suni Williams home on "117", I don't think they would have Anderson return on the "118" mission.
That would be a VERY short ISS increment for him.
My guess is that they'll have Williams return as originally scheduled on "118"

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Robert Pearlman
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posted April 18, 2007 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KSCartist:
IMHO they should let Tani still go up on STS-120 and let Anderson stay longer.
Anderson was originally to launch at the end of June (on STS-118) and return in early-September (on STS-120), a stay of less than three months. Tani is trained for tasks on STS-120 that require he stay with that mission.

As it stands now, STS-118 is scheduled to launch in early August and STS-120 is targeted for late October. If Anderson stays on STS-118, then his time in orbit is about the same. If he launches on STS-117, he'll gain an extra two months. Either way, Tani launches on STS-120.

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posted April 18, 2007 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JGJ   Click Here to Email JGJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, when you look at it, the STS-117 design is not terribly "tab-friendly" as it's not based on a circle or oval. Making a tab that doesn't look like garbage bolted on would be somewhat difficult...

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Robert Pearlman
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posted April 26, 2007 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The decision has been made. STS-117 will launch with Anderson and return Williams. Anderson will return on STS-120.

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lunarrv15
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posted April 27, 2007 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunarrv15   Click Here to Email lunarrv15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will NASA have 117 and 118 reissued with the change of names on them?

Will a change of crew photo for 117 be done as well?

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Harald Kraenzel
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posted April 27, 2007 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Concerning the related patches I was told that AB Emblem has been informed by NASA on that change but no order to change the patches yet.

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Robert Pearlman
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posted May 12, 2007 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the new, official STS-117 patch artwork:

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posted May 20, 2007 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OV-105   Click Here to Email OV-105     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any word on when the Anderson 117 patches will be out or will it be like the Wolf 86 where you got a seperate tab?

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Harald Kraenzel
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posted May 20, 2007 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I asked AB and they answered:
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Hello Harald,

Since we are the official contractor for NASA they usually notify us of up coming changes well in advance. We are working on the STS-117 patch they are only having a tab made to be sewn on. We don't have a date yet as to when it will be available.

Thank you
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posted May 23, 2007 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lunarrv15:
Will a change of crew photo for 117 be done as well?

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posted May 24, 2007 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunarrv15   Click Here to Email lunarrv15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Comparing, what now is previous crew of 117, photo of 117, Anderson photo edited and the digitally moved direct front of Sturckow.

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posted May 24, 2007 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tncmaxq   Click Here to Email tncmaxq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought my 117 lapel pins months ago when I thought they were going to launch in March. Aby idea when the revamped ones will go on sale? Unless it is soon I suppose it might be too late to get one before departing for the space coast, which I expect to do on June 7.

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posted June 01, 2007 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's with the different shade of blue for the rocker? Shouldn't it match the rest of the patch?

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posted June 01, 2007 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By "rocker" I guess you are referring to the Anderson tab? If so, it is the same color as the "space" above the Earth. Personally, I think it nicely balances the design.

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posted June 01, 2007 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
By "rocker" I guess you are referring to the Anderson tab? If so, it is the same color as the "space" above the Earth. Personally, I think it nicely balances the design.

Ah, just noticed that. I was looking at the lighter blue just above the rocker. Concur, that does work.

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posted June 05, 2007 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like the first picture of the crew wearing the STS-117 patch with the new Anderson "rocker" is in:
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/170421main_0854-03.jpg

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posted June 05, 2007 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also like Jim Reilly's name badge. I'd like to see a close-up of his hat.

Tim

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posted June 05, 2007 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KSCartist:
I also like Jim Reilly's name badge. I'd like to see a close-up of his hat.
It looks like a hat from the Office of Naval Research. Here is a pic of the emblem.

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posted June 05, 2007 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is that logo. And the gold letters above his logo say "Office of Naval Research."

Anderson's hat is the Expedition 15 "XV" orbital-trace removed from the patch (the same way it appears on the shirts).

Edit: Sturckow's hat, upon closer look, is the USMC logo.

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posted June 06, 2007 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jim Reilly picked up his ONR cover while visiting NR-1, the Navy's research submarine. Here is the article from All Hands magazine: http://www.navy.mil/media/allhands/acrobat/ah200706.pdf

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posted June 06, 2007 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish AB would haul ass and get these patches done for release to the public.

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posted June 06, 2007 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That Texas background is one of the standard backgrounds at Williams & Williams, where I know some of the astronaut nametags come from. They do not advertise the astro-type wings in public; they only have a USAF astronaut wing and a NASA meatball wing at front.

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posted June 08, 2007 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding the NASA STS-117 emblem, they could at least get their web sites to display the same information...

This site, the shuttle site if you please, does not mention Anderson. But this site, has it right.

If anyone wants to tell them to fix this, they're most welcome. I'm tired.

Chris.

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