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Liembo
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posted 05-28-2020 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A new oddball in the collection. It's 6" wide, vintage 60s or early 70s based on the construction.

Paul J. Brennan
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posted 05-28-2020 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul J. Brennan   Click Here to Email Paul J. Brennan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice find!

kosmo
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posted 05-29-2020 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kosmo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The last A in NASA and vector don’t look right.

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posted 06-10-2020 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kosmo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kosmo:
...it looks like the NASA vector patch-type V was used on the Apollo 11 Bio Isolation Garments.
So no ones open for the discussion about the type V vector patch being on the Apollo 11 BIGs? According to The Crew Patch reference guide they were ”Worn by the Apollo 13, 16 and 17 crews on their post-flight jump suits”, this seems quite a bit earlier.

Liembo
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posted 06-10-2020 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would agree that the Apollo BIGs do appear to have the Type V. Photos of Aldrin's and Collins' suits at the Smithsonian seem to confirm it as well.

Unrelated, but Collin's suit (on display in Houston) has the wrong and horribly rendered Apollo 11 eagle patch applied. There are a few instances of this kind of thing on suits in their collection, which does not inspire 100% confidence in matters such as this, but seeing that the three suits have the same meatball, that's likely confirmed. (Also confirmed watching a video of them exiting the helicopter on deck.)

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posted 06-12-2020 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kosmo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liembo:
Looks like a "Type I" to me.
Crickets on the 5/28 post? Is it really a type 1 vector patch? Type 3? There has to be more than one opinion on this!

spaced out
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posted 06-14-2020 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm always wary of patches visible today on vintage flight suits etc, as so many are clearly replacements for the originals. However, it does seem that Type V patches were used on the BIGs for Apollo 11. I'll update my site to note this.

For the white border meatball patch posted on 05-28 I'm torn between Type II and Type III, as it contains elements of both. It may be that these variations between runs are more mixed than originally suspected, which means perhaps we should treat them all as one type, or that we should sub-divide them further.

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posted 06-15-2020 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kosmo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thickness and shape of the letters in NASA seem to match the Crew Patch reference guide photos of the Apollo 11 post-flight jump suit photos best.

The top of the "A" seems cropped off where it meets the vector, there's no top left extension to the "A". The ends of the vector seem to be similar also, the bottom left one being a little longer than the top one. So maybe NASA vector patch type III?

Also the stars of the patch seem to have the thickness of the type III patch, their thinner in the type II.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 11-30-2021 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AB Emblem have just released reproduction versions of the NASA Meatball "Type I" and "Type II" patches. These patches have the following details on their embedded labels;

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 12-10-2021 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today AB Emblem added the reproduction of the type III NASA Meatball patch to their website listings with the following details;
  • 437920 A-B Emblem Made In USA 11/2120
  • 437920 A-B Emblem Made In USA 12/2120

Paul J. Brennan
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posted 12-11-2021 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul J. Brennan   Click Here to Email Paul J. Brennan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the updates Kevin!

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 08-12-2022 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AB Emblem have now added to their website four further reproductions of their earlier 60's and 70's NASA Meatball patches;
  • Type IV 440218 - Apollo 10, 12, 14, and 15.
  • Type V 440219 - Apollo 13, 16, and 17.
  • Type VI 440220 - Apollo 9, 10 backup, and Apollo suit tech Joe Schmitt.
  • Type VII 440221 - Late Apollo days.

The date codes for each patch are not confirmed at this time, but all were manufactured at Weaverville, NC.


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