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E2M Lem Man
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posted 04-02-2014 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2M Lem Man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Revell U.S. re-release of the 1/24 Gemini Space Capsule SSP (Selected Subjects Program) has hit the stores. The artwork is the same (astronaut EVA) but the side panels art is sadly gone.

The big plus is the new decal sheet that was in the Revell Germany release from last year that includes the nose shingles.

It's great to see this during Gemini's 50th anniversary year.

Now RealSpace needs to re-release their improvement kit.

AussiePete
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posted 04-03-2014 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AussiePete   Click Here to Email AussiePete     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks great.

hotdog
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posted 04-03-2014 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hotdog   Click Here to Email hotdog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LVM Studios makes a really nice interior detail set for the kit.

AussiePete
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posted 04-07-2014 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AussiePete   Click Here to Email AussiePete     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just bought this kit. Will have to get hold of a detail kit to go with.

Ronpur
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posted 04-08-2014 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by E2M Lem Man:
Now RealSpace needs to re-release their improvement kit.
It looks like he still has it.

AussiePete
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posted 04-08-2014 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AussiePete   Click Here to Email AussiePete     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is in the Realspace detail set? At least the LVM studio has images of the parts

hotdog
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posted 04-08-2014 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hotdog   Click Here to Email hotdog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The RealSpace add-on fixes all of the inaccuracies with the exterior of the kit. Thrusters, straps, radar, sensors, window covers, etc. You also get a piece that makes representing the gold thermal shield very easy. Here is a look at it.

There's one up for bid on eBay right now, if for some reason you can't get it directly from the RSM website.

AussiePete
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posted 04-08-2014 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AussiePete   Click Here to Email AussiePete     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks. I did manage to find these shots after posting. So looks like both detail kits would be of benefit.

AussiePete
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posted 04-16-2014 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AussiePete   Click Here to Email AussiePete     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Model arrived just in time for Easter break. Pity I'm going away. What's the deal with this model though? No heat shield in the kit at all?

Looks like I will be buying one or two detail kits when I get back.

AussiePete
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posted 04-22-2014 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AussiePete   Click Here to Email AussiePete     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why bother reproducing a model that is far from scale Revell? You'd think for a reissue they'd at least update its flaws.

ea757grrl
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posted 04-22-2014 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ea757grrl   Click Here to Email ea757grrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AussiePete:
Why bother reproducing a model that is far from scale Revell? You'd think for a reissue they'd at least update its flaws.

Updating the tooling would take additional time and increase the cost of the kit (and as those of us who have the "modified reissue" of the USS Forrestal kit know, you also run the risk of those modifications not turning out as well as you'd hope).

Aside from that, a big reason model companies reissue these old kits is for the nostalgia factor, giving the buying public another shot at kits remembered from younger days. It's both less expensive and much easier/quicker to just reissue the kit as-is from an existing, paid-for tool than commission changes or updates, if not the multiple tens-of-thousands of dollars that a new tool costs.

We as subject-matter specialists may wish we got something different, but the average model builder will probably buy it, build it, and think it's cool, and not care about the missing heat shield or that the window coves are off, or so forth. As much as I wish the ratio was reversed, there's a lot more of them than us, and that has a bearing on Revell's decision to reissue the kit as-is.

AussiePete
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posted 04-22-2014 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AussiePete   Click Here to Email AussiePete     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see your point. Frustration set in when I looked at buying the LVM detail kit and find postage to be the same cost as the kit. Which is already twice what I paid for the kit. So now I'll just do the best I can with styrene and odds and ends. As good as the detail parts might be I just can't come to spend nearly $100 for a detail kit for a $17 model.

kosmo
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posted 04-22-2014 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kosmo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AussiePete:
I just can't come to spend nearly $100 for a detail kit for a $17 model.
A detailed Gemini model for $100, what a deal (I know, plus paint etc., etc., more like $200, but!!) and just think of the fun you'll have building it!

Ronpur
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posted 04-22-2014 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I think of the detail kits, I look at it as just buying what you want to add to give you the model that will make you happy. I doubt I will ever look at the interior of the model after I build it, so I won't need the LVM interior, just the Realspace for the exterior. A super detailed kit of a 1/24th scale Gemini would cost a lot more than $18.

I have always found it strange that this kit was done in the first place, since a 1/48th scale Gemini was made by Revell with the Mercury. But no Mercury capsule was ever done at 1/24th! I like the 1/48th scale Gemini since it represents a prototype design with the landing gear.

history in miniature
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posted 04-22-2014 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for history in miniature   Click Here to Email history in miniature     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could go the scratchbuilding route for the interior for a few dollars like I did. This also has the RealSpace exterior detail set.

AussiePete
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posted 04-23-2014 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AussiePete   Click Here to Email AussiePete     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is one awesome detailing job. Better than the detail set. Well done

GACspaceguy
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posted 04-23-2014 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve, Wow! That cockpit is stunning!

Ronpur
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posted 04-23-2014 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, that is amazing!

datkatz
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posted 04-23-2014 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for datkatz   Click Here to Email datkatz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, Steve. Amazing. After seeing this, I'm jonesing for a model fix.

mooncollector
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posted 05-28-2014 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mooncollector   Click Here to Email mooncollector     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini was one of my favorite models as a kid. Even though it never flew, I always wanted to build the 1/48 version with the landing gear just once... when I was a kid I couldn't do that because ANY model kit was a treasure and I couldn't buy two at a time and put the Mercury kit to waste.

Thanks to adulthood and eBay I now have the 1/48 in both versions, along with a full Mercury and the landed capsule with the deployed bag which I never somehow figured out to do when younger!

And I NEVER had the 1/24 version at all. Now with eBay and this re-release, I can do the 1/24 orbital version and REALLY scratch my Gemini itch with a 1/24 landed version with scratch-built landing gear made in more detailed fashion than the original 1/48.

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posted 06-16-2014 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sprocketship     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought this kit a couple of weeks ago and just started looking at it over the weekend.

I think my two biggest disappointments with it are a lack of the gold thermal shield and that there is no detailing of the support struts along the exterior of the service module.

I certainly don't have the money to buy the detail kit and I'm not for scratch building, so the gold thermal shield is pretty much out for me. But, I am thinking of ways to add the structuring to the outside of the craft.

By the way, does anyone know of a paint color that is accurate for the capsule exterior? I always seem to see blue in it, so a solid black doesn't quite work for me...

Thanks!

tetrox
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posted 06-16-2014 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tetrox   Click Here to Email tetrox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The colour of the Gemini spacecraft is one of those topics that comes up again and again on the model forums.

The colour of the flown craft is black or very very dark grey with a subtle metallic sheen.

The most widely published photographs of the Gemini 6/7 rendezvous tend to show the craft as having a blue tint or hue as do photographs of some the early engineering mockups which were often shown as a medium blue grey as opposed to black.

The blue appearance of flown spacecraft in orbit is caused I assume by the reflectivity of the Earth on the spacecraft skin and the photographic processes.

I've built quite a few of the kits over the years and the finish that I would suggest is Testors metalized dark "exhaust" which I think replicates the actual craft finish nicely and is more interesting than just a solid black.

I'm a little unsure what you are referring to as support struts but if you don't want to make too many modifications you could always just build it "as is" and it makes a nice representation of the McDonnell mockup so often seen next to a mockup Mercury spacecraft in publicity photographs during the 1960s and this is almost certainly what Revell modelled their kit on.

GACspaceguy
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posted 06-16-2014 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tetrox:
...you could always just build it "as is"
I think an "out of the box" build for this kit is a great idea. The kit itself is part of space history in that it was what was available at the time for that particular vehicle. Is it perfect, absolutely not, does the kit have its own history, you bet.

PeterO
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posted 06-16-2014 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeterO   Click Here to Email PeterO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sprocketship:
... there is no detailing of the support struts along the exterior of the service module.

I'm guessing that you're referring to the black stripes. The retro and equipment modules did not have any raised struts or stringers on them. The black stripes on them were actually black paint. The black and white paint pattern acted as a thermal regulator for the coolant tubing along the inside walls of the modules. I don't recall whether the coolant tubing was under the black or white areas.

The black stripes were found to be unnecessary, so later Geminis did not have them, but had patches of black Velcro for EVA astronaut handholds.

The modules did have various opening experiment doors, maintenance hatches and riveting, but nothing resembling raised stringers or struts.

hotdog
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posted 06-16-2014 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hotdog   Click Here to Email hotdog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And if you buy the 1:24 Gemini decals from Space Model Systems, you get the black striping for the service module PeterO is talking about. That really sets this kit off.

AussiePete
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posted 06-17-2014 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AussiePete   Click Here to Email AussiePete     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No need to buy detail kits. A little styrene can do wonders. I used a dark grey for the body with a satin coat over the whole thing before and after decals. I used the kit decals.

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posted 06-17-2014 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sprocketship     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all of the input.

I didn't realize that the black lines on the service module were paint. They always looked like shadows cast from some kind of raised structural support...

I'd love to know how to scratch build the thermal shield if anyone has any ideas. I don't know why, but I really don't like the open backside of the model...

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posted 06-17-2014 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
David Weeks offers some tips in his essay, Modeling the Gemini in 1/24 Scale.
For the thermal blanket material that covers the back of the equipment module, I chose a gold colored mylar balloon.

Ronpur
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posted 06-17-2014 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For what it is worth, here is my model I finished a few weeks ago. I used the RealSpace set for the exterior and the Space Model Systems decals. I used gold Bare Metal Foil on the thermal shield. I used bits of plastic sheet and rod to detail the interior. I painted the capsule Satin Black.

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posted 06-17-2014 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amazing job on the Gemini spacecraft. Gotta love that Bare Metal Foil.

Looks awesome!

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