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cspg
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posted 06-22-2011 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the latest release from Dragon, Dragon 1:400 Ariane 5G with launch pad:

cspg
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posted 12-05-2011 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This model is available (hit the shores) but nobody seems to have noticed...

roberthoudin
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posted 12-05-2011 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roberthoudin   Click Here to Email roberthoudin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Noticed... noticed as well that this is not an accurate version of the "launch pad," the umbilical mast is missing. It is part of the launch table that is rolled to the launch pad. The only thing present are the two tables that are part of the pad that retain the SRBs. Disappointing...

cspg
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posted 12-06-2011 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But the rocket is okay, this time, right? The "launch pad" is a bonus item, in my opinion.

roberthoudin
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posted 12-06-2011 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roberthoudin   Click Here to Email roberthoudin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would agree with you if the box did not mention "with launch pad." This is not the launch pad. Full stop. There are plenty of books, DVDs, videos and photographs on the Arianespace, ESA and CNES websites to confirm that fact. I would have expected at least as much effort in this than what was done for the Japanese H-II rocket. The Ariane launch mast is actually simpler that the H-II one.

Regarding the rocket itself, it is mostly accurate, nothing that a little bit of pain cannot fix. Kudos for this one...

cspg
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posted 12-15-2011 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by roberthoudin:
I would agree with you if the box did not mention "with launch pad." This is not the launch pad. Full stop.

Received the model today. You're absolutely right. There is no launch pad as defined by the other models but rather a launch table. A pity. That being said it's really nice to compare the rocket's size with the H2A and Titan IIIC MOL which I also received.

roberthoudin
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posted 01-03-2012 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roberthoudin   Click Here to Email roberthoudin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After having received the model. I finally understand why the model is what it is... in fact, on the back of the box, Dragon has published their inspiration. It is the 1:1 scale model of the first version of Ariane 5 that is on display at the Air and Space museum at Le Bourget, outside of Paris. So what they have in fact modeled is not exactly the flying item, and the table used to display the model in the museum, not the launch pad... Based on my review of the model, here are some errors:
  • the main engine of the Ariane 5 G (Vulcain 1) had 2 exhausts. Only 1 is depicted and not in the correct angle
  • most of the vulcain engine and the thrust structure are protected by an aluminum color structure, not "white" as depicted
  • the nozzles of the solid boosters should be white and not black.
Overall this is a good model (if you care to rectify these errors) and accept to give Dragon a pass on their non existent "launch pad" despite the fact that it is mentioned on the box. I bought two, with the intention to modify one so that I can depict the 5G+ version. Socatec in France sells a 1:400 version of the Ariane 5 ECA... so I can display the three. It should be noted that the later sales for about 20-25$ online for the same level of accuracy as the Dragon model...

Question though, with so much material, pictures and videos available related to Ariane, why does Dragon rely on the one model at le Bourget to issue this model? Are they even thinking about these things?

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