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posted 01-04-2011 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space In Scale   Click Here to Email Space In Scale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know if Bandai is planning an ISS, or maybe something else in their Otona No Chogokin line?

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posted 01-04-2011 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no idea what they are planning but if they do the ISS I am sure I would be one of the first to order one.

I am sure that Bandai would do an excellent job if they took this project at hand.

I guess we will have to wait and see.

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posted 01-04-2011 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mslekar   Click Here to Email mslekar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bandai, bring on the Saturn 1b, Mercurys and Gemini!!!

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posted 01-04-2011 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space In Scale   Click Here to Email Space In Scale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plus, ISS, Buran, Hubble.

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posted 01-04-2011 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As another satisfied owner of both the Endeavour and Saturn V, my first preference for the next edition would be a set of 1:144 Mercury-Redstone, Mercury-Atlas, Gemini-Titan II, and Apollo-Saturn 1B. Then I could finally have a set of the US manned spacecraft and launch vehicles in the same scale.

Beyond that... no idea. A Bandai 1:144 ISS would no doubt be very impressive, but with finish and detail consistent with their current releases, I have to believe such a release would also come with a solid four-digit price tag.

A Buran-Energia stack would certainly look impressive, but in a historical context it doesn't seem relevant enough to be produced as part of a series like this.

Sooo... How about Hubble? Voyager? Galileo? Cassini? The Viking landers and orbiters? I'd love to have display models of these pioneering unmanned spaccraft, but right now the only options out there are handmade replicas that are simply beyond my pocketbook. Anyone at Bandai paying attention?

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posted 01-05-2011 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These models all seem to have their own validity in their own way. I think these are good hints for Bandai to consider for their future plans.

This is just a thought. It would be nice if it is possible for the administrator to make a list of possible models and then for us to vote for our preferred model. This would help Bandai consider or reconsider future plans.

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posted 01-05-2011 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dog320     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another satisfied owner of the series so far. If they stay with 1/144 then an A4 (V2 - first sub-orbital space flight) and an R7/Vostok 1. However I guess that American vehicles will be more popular in Japan. If they get into 1/72 then that could be very interesting as their standards are way above the current competition. In 1/72 the X-15, Vostok, Apollo CSM and LM and an orbiter (Columbia - STS-1 configuration). I hope someone from Bandai is listening.

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posted 01-05-2011 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1/72 Hubble for me.

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posted 01-05-2011 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1/72 or 1/48 scale X-1 and X-15 models would be great.

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1/72 Hubble for me.

Dragon Wings has one planned (DM 50383).

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posted 01-11-2011 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for press4meco   Click Here to Email press4meco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So based on the (really) rough translation from Google, according to the latest blog entry from Otona No Chogokin team, there appears to be a third model announced sometime this year, with the possibility of a fourth.

No telling what they might be. However, in a few photos from some of the earlier blog entries, there appears to a model of some sort of satellite shown next to the Shuttle and Saturn V.

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posted 01-11-2011 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space In Scale   Click Here to Email Space In Scale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't suppose you have a link to that pic...?

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posted 01-11-2011 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The photos are here and show Bandai's two Otona No Chogokin models on display at the since-closed JAXAi public exhibit.

The Saturn V and shuttle are displayed next to models of JAXA's Hayabusa asteroid sample return probe and what is either the M-V rocket that launched it or perhaps JAXA's H-II booster.

Neither appear to be Bandai releases but rather other models that were on display at JAXAi.

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Just found the pic as you posted, and yes they don't look like Bandai models.

But if they are releasing one or two more models to the range this year I can't wait to see what they will chose to release.

I know the ISS would be a handful, and costly, but I'd just love to see it.

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One way that Bandai could approach the ISS to make it more affordable for collectors but at the same time, ultimately charge them (us) a higher final price, would be to release segments.

They could, for example, release JAXA's Kibo lab (all three components -- the lab, the logistics module and the exterior platform with robotic arm) as one set, and the U.S. Destiny lab, Harmony Node 1 and the Pressurized Mating Adapter-2 as another.

Other sets could group other modules or components, such as Columbus, Destiny, the Quest airlock and Tranquility Node 3 together, and Unity Node 1, the Zvezda service module and Zarya FGB together.

The truss and solar arrays could be one set. And a visiting spacecraft set could include Soyuz, Progress, HTV and ATV.

All of these of course, would fit together to form one large model.

One other benefit of this approach is that they could choose a larger scale, so that perhaps each module could be opened to reveal the interior of each.

Given the station is expected to be in operation through 2020 (if not longer), Bandai could spread out the release of these sets over a number of years, making it easier for collectors to budget for while also creating a loyal following.

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posted 01-11-2011 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space In Scale   Click Here to Email Space In Scale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That would be a great idea. It would make it highly detailed too.

Fingers crossed.

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posted 01-12-2011 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like these approaches Robert.

I think that Bandai should take note of these suggestions. That way it would surely meet thier production targets as they will be accessible to more people.

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posted 01-12-2011 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why only the ISS? Dragon Wings has a Mir space station planned, why not Bandai? And what about Skylab and Salyut stations?

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posted 01-12-2011 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a few... Soyuz rocket, Vostok, Salyut, LRV, Lunokhod 2, Luna 24, Apollo moon suit in cutaway version.

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posted 01-12-2011 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's see what the Soyuz rocket model from Dragon Wings will look like.

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posted 01-12-2011 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Comparing Dragon's plans to Bandai's is somewhat comparing apples to oranges. Bandai's Otona No Chogokin line is aimed at a higher end market but with a distribution larger than Dragon's.

Dragon can produce multiple versions of the same rocket and less in demand (outside the space history community) models, whereas Bandai likely needs to focus only on subjects that have mass appeal (or at least mass public awareness).

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posted 01-12-2011 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bandai seems like it's priority is to appeal to the Japanese market first, but they should always consider the rest of the world as I am sure that there is were the majority sales go.

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I wouldn't be too sure of that.

There is a very large demand for space models and related products in Japan, that extends beyond space history enthusiasts and space memorabilia collectors.

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posted 01-12-2011 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Japan is a big country and I am sure that Bandai does it's proper homework but I hope it does consider the rest of the world.

Then Japan will make the next landing on the moon.

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posted 01-27-2011 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space In Scale   Click Here to Email Space In Scale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't know if there are any clues in this latest release from their site, but it seems a news release is due shortly from what I can gather.

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posted 02-18-2011 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone care to venture odds on whether this series will feature any Soviet/Russian spacecraft?

Given the long, mostly contentious history of relations between the USSR/Russia and Japan, I wouldn't bet on it. Just a thought...

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Anyone care to venture odds on whether this series will feature any Soviet/Russian spacecraft?
Which one do you have in mind? Manned or unmanned?

In the end, Bandai needs to make a buck (or yen) so the most "popular" spacecraft would have to be chosen. I don't which Soviet spacecraft would fit into that category (Soyuz?).

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It would be quite easy to release the other four space shuttles, i.e. Columbia, Challenger, Discovery, Atlantis. Perhaps with or without the launch stack items.

Just sell me the orbiter for $150-$200 each and I'd probably buy the lot. But I don't want to pay $500 each time. So make the ET and SRBs optional.

Each orbiter has a different paint scheme, so that adds character. I saw the Atlantis launch on STS-132 and would have preferred it over Endeavour. I saw the Columbia re-enter over Houston at night many years ago, and I helped with recovery of its remains. I like the Columbia in its original paint scheme without the pod on the vertical stabilizer.

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posted 03-23-2011 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, since we're just speculating...

How about a combination vehicle and launcher, in different scales? Maybe a detailed Mercury, Gemini, Vostok, or Soyuz spacecraft, accompanied by its launch vehicle in a smaller scale with separable stages?

Or...my personal preferences: A 1:72 Skylab (with removable panels showing a detailed interior), a big-scale Hubble Space Telescope with the same features...or a combination set of pioneering unmanned probes like Ranger, Surveyor, Pioneer, Viking (How about a detailed large scale orbiter/lander set!), Voyager, etc.

This has been a fantastic project so far; I really hope Bandai continues to get it right.

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posted 07-07-2011 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any idea of what's next?

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Any way to contact Bandai and ask if the other shuttles will be made? I really would like to see the Discovery, Atlantis...etc.

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posted 07-17-2011 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
[B]One way that Bandai could approach the ISS to make it more affordable for collectors but at the same time, ultimately charge them (us) a higher final price, would be to release segments.

I still prefer Robert's approach to an ISS in segments. This guarantees Bandai's selling it's releases in segments and puts less monetary pressures on us collectors.

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posted 07-22-2011 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ApolloManiacs   Click Here to Email ApolloManiacs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately, Hayabusa, the third model of Otonano Cyougoukin will be a last one of space items.

The fourth model of Otonano Cyougoukin will be Shinkansen Zero type, the first model of Japanese Super Express Train.

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posted 07-22-2011 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooow what a pity!!

Bandai did a very good job with all the three space models they got out.

I consider myself very proud and lucky that I have collected all the three. Let's hope that some time in the near future they will re-consider new space models.

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I consider myself very proud and lucky that I have collected all the three. Let's hope that some time in the near future they will re-consider new space models.
Same here. My wallet won't shed any tears, especially with Dragon releasing new space models every few weeks, but Bandai did a brilliant job with all three.

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My wallet won't shed any tears, especially with Dragon releasing new space models every few weeks, but Bandai did a brilliant job with all three.
Well said, but I would have preferred two fantastic models a year made of high quality and detailed.

Dragon is also doing a great job with their models but I still prefer a few models witch are of high quality if you know what I mean.

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I didn't mean to imply that the Dragon and Bandai series were comparable, or that I'd prefer one over the other (though looking at my post, I can see how it might have come across that way.)

I collect both, and was just sayin' that the space budget was a bit stretched these days.

I'd still love to see more Bandai space models.

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posted 09-13-2011 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kes   Click Here to Email kes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just had an email from HobbyLink Japan. In it they mention an ISS model from Bandai.
Bandai presents a 1/144 Real Grade Freedom Gundam from Gundam Seed! Also coming are MG kits from Wing Gundam, a model of the International Space Station, and a 1/48 scale kit of the Shinkai 6500 deep submersible!

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Welcome kes, now that is what I wanted to hear from Bandai. Let's hope they will do an excellent job out of this as they always did with their models. Let's also hope that their price tag will be reasonable too.

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The ISS model is no longer mentioned.


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