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Topic: What's next for Bandai's Otona No Chogokin?
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Space In Scale Member Posts: 33 From: Essex, England Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 01-04-2011 10:44 PM
Does anyone know if Bandai is planning an ISS, or maybe something else in their Otona No Chogokin line? |
alexbaja Member Posts: 448 From: Naxxar, Malta Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 01-04-2011 10:45 PM
I have no idea what they are planning but if they do the ISS I am sure I would be one of the first to order one.I am sure that Bandai would do an excellent job if they took this project at hand. I guess we will have to wait and see.
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mslekar Member Posts: 100 From: Eagle,Idaho Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 01-04-2011 10:45 PM
Bandai, bring on the Saturn 1b, Mercurys and Gemini!!! |
Space In Scale Member Posts: 33 From: Essex, England Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 01-04-2011 10:46 PM
Plus, ISS, Buran, Hubble. |
GoesTo11 Member Posts: 1309 From: Denver, CO Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 01-04-2011 10:46 PM
As another satisfied owner of both the Endeavour and Saturn V, my first preference for the next edition would be a set of 1:144 Mercury-Redstone, Mercury-Atlas, Gemini-Titan II, and Apollo-Saturn 1B. Then I could finally have a set of the US manned spacecraft and launch vehicles in the same scale.Beyond that... no idea. A Bandai 1:144 ISS would no doubt be very impressive, but with finish and detail consistent with their current releases, I have to believe such a release would also come with a solid four-digit price tag. A Buran-Energia stack would certainly look impressive, but in a historical context it doesn't seem relevant enough to be produced as part of a series like this. Sooo... How about Hubble? Voyager? Galileo? Cassini? The Viking landers and orbiters? I'd love to have display models of these pioneering unmanned spaccraft, but right now the only options out there are handmade replicas that are simply beyond my pocketbook. Anyone at Bandai paying attention? |
alexbaja Member Posts: 448 From: Naxxar, Malta Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 01-05-2011 02:10 AM
These models all seem to have their own validity in their own way. I think these are good hints for Bandai to consider for their future plans.This is just a thought. It would be nice if it is possible for the administrator to make a list of possible models and then for us to vote for our preferred model. This would help Bandai consider or reconsider future plans.
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dog320 Member Posts: 49 From: West Sussex, United Kingdom Registered: Jul 2010
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posted 01-05-2011 05:32 AM
Another satisfied owner of the series so far. If they stay with 1/144 then an A4 (V2 - first sub-orbital space flight) and an R7/Vostok 1. However I guess that American vehicles will be more popular in Japan. If they get into 1/72 then that could be very interesting as their standards are way above the current competition. In 1/72 the X-15, Vostok, Apollo CSM and LM and an orbiter (Columbia - STS-1 configuration). I hope someone from Bandai is listening. |
garymilgrom Member Posts: 1966 From: Atlanta, GA Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 01-05-2011 06:35 AM
1/72 Hubble for me. |
Gilbert Member Posts: 1328 From: Carrollton, GA USA Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-05-2011 08:06 AM
1/72 or 1/48 scale X-1 and X-15 models would be great. |
cspg Member Posts: 6210 From: Geneva, Switzerland Registered: May 2006
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posted 01-05-2011 09:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by garymilgrom: 1/72 Hubble for me.
Dragon Wings has one planned (DM 50383). |
press4meco Member Posts: 44 From: Renton, WA, USA Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 01-11-2011 04:45 PM
So based on the (really) rough translation from Google, according to the latest blog entry from Otona No Chogokin team, there appears to be a third model announced sometime this year, with the possibility of a fourth.No telling what they might be. However, in a few photos from some of the earlier blog entries, there appears to a model of some sort of satellite shown next to the Shuttle and Saturn V. |
Space In Scale Member Posts: 33 From: Essex, England Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 01-11-2011 06:07 PM
Don't suppose you have a link to that pic...? |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42982 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 01-11-2011 06:17 PM
The photos are here and show Bandai's two Otona No Chogokin models on display at the since-closed JAXAi public exhibit. The Saturn V and shuttle are displayed next to models of JAXA's Hayabusa asteroid sample return probe and what is either the M-V rocket that launched it or perhaps JAXA's H-II booster. Neither appear to be Bandai releases but rather other models that were on display at JAXAi. |
Space In Scale Member Posts: 33 From: Essex, England Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 01-11-2011 06:26 PM
Just found the pic as you posted, and yes they don't look like Bandai models.But if they are releasing one or two more models to the range this year I can't wait to see what they will chose to release. I know the ISS would be a handful, and costly, but I'd just love to see it. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42982 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 01-11-2011 06:43 PM
One way that Bandai could approach the ISS to make it more affordable for collectors but at the same time, ultimately charge them (us) a higher final price, would be to release segments. They could, for example, release JAXA's Kibo lab (all three components -- the lab, the logistics module and the exterior platform with robotic arm) as one set, and the U.S. Destiny lab, Harmony Node 1 and the Pressurized Mating Adapter-2 as another. Other sets could group other modules or components, such as Columbus, Destiny, the Quest airlock and Tranquility Node 3 together, and Unity Node 1, the Zvezda service module and Zarya FGB together. The truss and solar arrays could be one set. And a visiting spacecraft set could include Soyuz, Progress, HTV and ATV. All of these of course, would fit together to form one large model. One other benefit of this approach is that they could choose a larger scale, so that perhaps each module could be opened to reveal the interior of each. Given the station is expected to be in operation through 2020 (if not longer), Bandai could spread out the release of these sets over a number of years, making it easier for collectors to budget for while also creating a loyal following. |
Space In Scale Member Posts: 33 From: Essex, England Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 01-11-2011 07:44 PM
That would be a great idea. It would make it highly detailed too.Fingers crossed. |
alexbaja Member Posts: 448 From: Naxxar, Malta Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 01-12-2011 02:08 AM
I like these approaches Robert.I think that Bandai should take note of these suggestions. That way it would surely meet thier production targets as they will be accessible to more people. |
cspg Member Posts: 6210 From: Geneva, Switzerland Registered: May 2006
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posted 01-12-2011 03:41 AM
Why only the ISS? Dragon Wings has a Mir space station planned, why not Bandai? And what about Skylab and Salyut stations? |
apolloprojeckt Member Posts: 1447 From: Arnhem, Netherlands Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 01-12-2011 06:06 AM
I have a few... Soyuz rocket, Vostok, Salyut, LRV, Lunokhod 2, Luna 24, Apollo moon suit in cutaway version. |
cspg Member Posts: 6210 From: Geneva, Switzerland Registered: May 2006
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posted 01-12-2011 08:25 AM
Let's see what the Soyuz rocket model from Dragon Wings will look like.  |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42982 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 01-12-2011 08:45 AM
Comparing Dragon's plans to Bandai's is somewhat comparing apples to oranges. Bandai's Otona No Chogokin line is aimed at a higher end market but with a distribution larger than Dragon's.Dragon can produce multiple versions of the same rocket and less in demand (outside the space history community) models, whereas Bandai likely needs to focus only on subjects that have mass appeal (or at least mass public awareness). |
alexbaja Member Posts: 448 From: Naxxar, Malta Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 01-12-2011 09:18 AM
Bandai seems like it's priority is to appeal to the Japanese market first, but they should always consider the rest of the world as I am sure that there is were the majority sales go. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42982 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 01-12-2011 09:25 AM
I wouldn't be too sure of that.There is a very large demand for space models and related products in Japan, that extends beyond space history enthusiasts and space memorabilia collectors. |
alexbaja Member Posts: 448 From: Naxxar, Malta Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 01-12-2011 09:54 AM
Well Japan is a big country and I am sure that Bandai does it's proper homework but I hope it does consider the rest of the world.Then Japan will make the next landing on the moon. |
Space In Scale Member Posts: 33 From: Essex, England Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 01-27-2011 07:43 PM
Don't know if there are any clues in this latest release from their site, but it seems a news release is due shortly from what I can gather. |
GoesTo11 Member Posts: 1309 From: Denver, CO Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 02-18-2011 08:51 PM
Anyone care to venture odds on whether this series will feature any Soviet/Russian spacecraft?Given the long, mostly contentious history of relations between the USSR/Russia and Japan, I wouldn't bet on it. Just a thought... |
cspg Member Posts: 6210 From: Geneva, Switzerland Registered: May 2006
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posted 02-19-2011 01:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by GoesTo11: Anyone care to venture odds on whether this series will feature any Soviet/Russian spacecraft?
Which one do you have in mind? Manned or unmanned?In the end, Bandai needs to make a buck (or yen) so the most "popular" spacecraft would have to be chosen. I don't which Soviet spacecraft would fit into that category (Soyuz?). |
glcanon Member Posts: 12 From: Houston Registered: Mar 2011
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posted 03-23-2011 09:47 PM
It would be quite easy to release the other four space shuttles, i.e. Columbia, Challenger, Discovery, Atlantis. Perhaps with or without the launch stack items. Just sell me the orbiter for $150-$200 each and I'd probably buy the lot. But I don't want to pay $500 each time. So make the ET and SRBs optional. Each orbiter has a different paint scheme, so that adds character. I saw the Atlantis launch on STS-132 and would have preferred it over Endeavour. I saw the Columbia re-enter over Houston at night many years ago, and I helped with recovery of its remains. I like the Columbia in its original paint scheme without the pod on the vertical stabilizer. |
GoesTo11 Member Posts: 1309 From: Denver, CO Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 03-23-2011 10:46 PM
Ok, since we're just speculating...How about a combination vehicle and launcher, in different scales? Maybe a detailed Mercury, Gemini, Vostok, or Soyuz spacecraft, accompanied by its launch vehicle in a smaller scale with separable stages? Or...my personal preferences: A 1:72 Skylab (with removable panels showing a detailed interior), a big-scale Hubble Space Telescope with the same features...or a combination set of pioneering unmanned probes like Ranger, Surveyor, Pioneer, Viking (How about a detailed large scale orbiter/lander set!), Voyager, etc. This has been a fantastic project so far; I really hope Bandai continues to get it right. |
alexbaja Member Posts: 448 From: Naxxar, Malta Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 07-07-2011 12:58 AM
Any idea of what's next? |
SuperKungFu Member Posts: 68 From: West Covina, CA USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted 07-17-2011 01:11 AM
Any way to contact Bandai and ask if the other shuttles will be made? I really would like to see the Discovery, Atlantis...etc. |
alexbaja Member Posts: 448 From: Naxxar, Malta Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 07-17-2011 08:35 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Robert Pearlman: [B]One way that Bandai could approach the ISS to make it more affordable for collectors but at the same time, ultimately charge them (us) a higher final price, would be to release segments. I still prefer Robert's approach to an ISS in segments. This guarantees Bandai's selling it's releases in segments and puts less monetary pressures on us collectors. |
ApolloManiacs Member Posts: 29 From: Tokyo, Japan Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 07-22-2011 06:46 AM
Unfortunately, Hayabusa, the third model of Otonano Cyougoukin will be a last one of space items.The fourth model of Otonano Cyougoukin will be Shinkansen Zero type, the first model of Japanese Super Express Train. |
alexbaja Member Posts: 448 From: Naxxar, Malta Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 07-22-2011 08:55 AM
Oooow what a pity!!Bandai did a very good job with all the three space models they got out. I consider myself very proud and lucky that I have collected all the three. Let's hope that some time in the near future they will re-consider new space models. |
GoesTo11 Member Posts: 1309 From: Denver, CO Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 07-22-2011 02:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by alexbaja: I consider myself very proud and lucky that I have collected all the three. Let's hope that some time in the near future they will re-consider new space models.
Same here. My wallet won't shed any tears, especially with Dragon releasing new space models every few weeks, but Bandai did a brilliant job with all three. |
alexbaja Member Posts: 448 From: Naxxar, Malta Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 07-22-2011 03:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by GoesTo11: My wallet won't shed any tears, especially with Dragon releasing new space models every few weeks, but Bandai did a brilliant job with all three.
Well said, but I would have preferred two fantastic models a year made of high quality and detailed.Dragon is also doing a great job with their models but I still prefer a few models witch are of high quality if you know what I mean. |
GoesTo11 Member Posts: 1309 From: Denver, CO Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 07-22-2011 09:00 PM
I didn't mean to imply that the Dragon and Bandai series were comparable, or that I'd prefer one over the other (though looking at my post, I can see how it might have come across that way.) I collect both, and was just sayin' that the space budget was a bit stretched these days. I'd still love to see more Bandai space models. |
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posted 09-13-2011 07:39 AM
Just had an email from HobbyLink Japan. In it they mention an ISS model from Bandai. Bandai presents a 1/144 Real Grade Freedom Gundam from Gundam Seed! Also coming are MG kits from Wing Gundam, a model of the International Space Station, and a 1/48 scale kit of the Shinkai 6500 deep submersible! |
alexbaja Member Posts: 448 From: Naxxar, Malta Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 09-13-2011 12:24 PM
Welcome kes, now that is what I wanted to hear from Bandai. Let's hope they will do an excellent job out of this as they always did with their models. Let's also hope that their price tag will be reasonable too. |
cspg Member Posts: 6210 From: Geneva, Switzerland Registered: May 2006
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posted 10-05-2011 09:18 AM
The ISS model is no longer mentioned. |