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alanh_7
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posted 07-04-2009 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanh_7   Click Here to Email alanh_7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am looking for information the F-86 Sabre(s) that Buzz Aldrin flew in Korea. Could someone advise where I might find color schemes, side numbers, personal markings, etc?

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posted 07-07-2009 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for history in miniature   Click Here to Email history in miniature     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are no individual photos, or artwork of his Sabre. You are going to have to do a general squadron marking, and, you might want to look at artwork by Troy White depicting Sabres of the 16th FIS. Buzz has two MiG kills, scored in an F variant.

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posted 07-08-2009 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have seen photos of Aldrin posing near a F-86 with yellow markings...

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posted 07-08-2009 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for history in miniature   Click Here to Email history in miniature     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 51st FIW used three different colors of vertical striping on their tails. The 16th carried a blue stripe, 25th a red one, and the 39th a yellow one, all had a black checkerboard. Good luck, let us know what you find.

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posted 07-09-2009 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanh_7   Click Here to Email alanh_7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am going to try writing the U.S. Air Force Museum and see if they can point me in the right direction.

Thanks for the help guys. I will let you know how I make out.

alanh_7
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posted 07-09-2010 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanh_7   Click Here to Email alanh_7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope someone can help with this. I am still trying to locate a photo of an F-86 Sabre that Buzz Aldrin flew in Korea.

I tried the National Air and Space Museum and they sent me some photos of Sabres flown by the 51 FIS but could not narrow down a specific photo of Aldrin's aircraft.

I also sent a letter to the U.S Air Force Museum and have not received a reply. I tried the Library of Congress and National Archives websites to no avail.

The only photos I have seen is a brief video clip of Buzz climbing out of an F-86 and the name "Faye"written on the right side below the cockpit. But that is all I have seen and the video does not show the complete aircraft.

Any help is appreciated.

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alanh_7
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posted 07-09-2010 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanh_7   Click Here to Email alanh_7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I forgot I asked for help on this last year. I would still appreciate any help anyone could give.

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posted 07-09-2010 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Retro Rocket   Click Here to Email Retro Rocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about contacting Buzz himself? He must have a website.

alanh_7
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posted 07-09-2010 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanh_7   Click Here to Email alanh_7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried that. The website has a place for general inquires but when you enter the in the General information it just says "wait one moment" but will not take the message.

Oh well, I will keep trying. There has to be a photo somewhere.

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posted 07-12-2010 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul23   Click Here to Email Paul23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if his publishers might have anything? Even if they don't, they might at least be able to confirm if what you are looking for exists or not.

alanh_7
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posted 07-12-2010 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanh_7   Click Here to Email alanh_7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw a photo on his website of Buzz standing next to what looks like an F-86E of F-86F, but the photo is a frontal shot and does not show and side numbers or insignia.

I said in a previous post that I saw a video of Buzz standing in a cockpit of an F-86 with the the name "Faye" below the cockpit, but it's a closeup and I cannot see and side numbers etc. I am going to go back and take a look at some video from various documentaries I have.

I am determined to find some details. There has to be something out there.

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posted 07-12-2010 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstronautBrian   Click Here to Email AstronautBrian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See if his squadron or parent unit has an association website. A lot of the WWII bomber groups have associations, but I don't know about Korea. An association historian may be able to help.

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posted 07-24-2010 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hlbjr   Click Here to Email hlbjr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try the Sabre Pilots Association, which my dad was a member. My dad flew F-86F's in the Korean War with the 18th Fighter Wing and there's an actual model of dad's jet (FU-350) made by Academy.

I have talked with Buzz how he was just up the road in Suwon from my dad's base in Osan. If you attend any autograph shows I'm sure Buzz will take a minute to give you some info on his jet.

alanh_7
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posted 07-24-2010 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanh_7   Click Here to Email alanh_7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, that's a great web site. Thanks for your help. I go will go through it slowly and see what I can find.

If I get a chance at the ASF show I will ask him about his airplane. Perhaps he was not assigned a specific airplane and flew several different aircraft. Thanks again.

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posted 07-24-2010 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hlbjr   Click Here to Email hlbjr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pilots generally got to call one airplane their own and have their name on the canopy rail, but yes, they would be assigned to fly many different aircraft in the squadron during a combat tour of duty.

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posted 07-24-2010 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanh_7   Click Here to Email alanh_7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know pilots are often assigned aircraft. But due to maintance issues, certification checks, combat damage etc they tend to fly whichever aircraft is available.

For example Robin Olds F4C "Scat XXVII" has only two of his 4 Mig kills on the intake plate because he flew another Phantom for the other two kills.

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