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Robert Pearlman
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posted 05-15-2021 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This photo (via MeeGo大乱炖 on Weibo) purports to show a lucite presentation with moon soil (regolith) from China's Chang'e 5 lunar sample return mission.

According to "Ace of Razgriz" (via Twitter), who follows Chinese spaceflight:

One lucky guy got a sample of the Moon. It seems the team of 5th academy of CALT [China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology] Chang'e project could get one of this.
If accurate, then this one lucite represents the largest sample of human-returned moon material in private hands.

rgarner
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posted 05-15-2021 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amazing if real. That has been added to my wishlist.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 05-15-2021 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used Google's visual translation app to try to discern what is written in the lucite.

It did not work perfectly — I suspect because of the angle of the text in the photo — but the gist was "the journey [or way] to the stars and the sea."

mode1charlie
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posted 05-15-2021 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Color me extremely skeptical.

It does not seem like something that the China Space Agency would do.

SkyMan1958
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posted 05-15-2021 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bingo!!!

Let's just say Chinese counterfeits are well known in a variety of collectible fields.

tegwilym
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posted 05-16-2021 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wait a while, Robert will have one in his collection!

Robert Pearlman
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posted 05-16-2021 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hah! I wish, but I don't see that in my future...

I can believe the lucite is authentic, but maybe the explanation behind it is incorrect. I could see it being real if the recipient is a high-ranking member of the Chang'e 5 team, similar to how the Soviet Union gifted Luna-retrieved moon dust to Sergei Korolev's widow and a few others.

But it does seem to be a large amount of material relative to the total returned and the lack of any reference to Chang'e 5 or the moon (if the translation is correct) is not what I would expect for such a display.

denali414
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posted 05-17-2021 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just for curiosity sake, what would be the estimate worth of that much regolith on the open market if real? I know it would be a huge number.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 05-17-2021 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is no direct precedent, so there is no way to accurately tell. The closest comparison would be $855,000 paid for the 0.2 grams of Luna 16-retrieved moon dust sold by Sotheby's in 2018 (which comes out to $4.3 million per gram).

But it is not a direct one-to-one comparison. There are numerous factors to consider, including that sentiments surrounding the Chang'e 5 mission are different.

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