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Blackarrow
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posted 04-26-2007 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a photograph of my (much) younger self leaning against a T-38 jet at Patrick Air Force Base, Florida, in July 1975. The aircraft has a number on the tail, 924. Does anyone know if the aircraft is still in use by NASA?

After 32 years that may seem a silly question, but a few Google searches indicate that no new T-38s were built after 1972; and with modifications some should still be flying until 2020.

I also found a list of NASA radio frequencies which listed a number of T-38s, including "924." Is there any way to tell what the aircraft has been used for since it was built, and whether it was flown to Patrick Air Force Base by one of the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project astronauts in 1975?

WSTFphoto
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posted 04-27-2007 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WSTFphoto   Click Here to Email WSTFphoto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your aircraft is in the background of this 1997 photo of the STS-94 crew. I haven't seen anything more recent.

I know that 924 is not one of the T-38s on display at Space Center Houston. There's one on display at the El Plaso, Texas, International Airport (ELP), but I don't know its identity.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-27-2007 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Though it's not 924, NASA JSC recently held a ceremony for the retirement of another T-38, NASA 963:

Gordon Reade
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posted 05-01-2007 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gordon Reade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The T-38 went out of production in 1972. Are the Talons currently being flown by NASA the same ones that were used by the astronauts in the 1960s? It would be sort of cool if they were.

lewarren
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posted 05-01-2007 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lewarren   Click Here to Email lewarren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed, they are the same aircraft.

Philip
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posted 10-02-2019 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The early T-38s flown by NASA astronauts were still in the 1960s orange wingtips and tail US Air Force paint scheme.

As of 2019, the T-38 celebrates it 60th anniversary (first flight was in April 1959).

CMD_OVRD
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posted 10-05-2019 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CMD_OVRD   Click Here to Email CMD_OVRD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got an up close look at some of NASA's T-38s a number of years ago in Houston. The maintenance people there filled me in on some of the extensive upgrades they've had over the years. These include modified engine inlets, larger speed brakes on the bottom of the jet, improved ejection seats, some glass instrumentation (vs the old round cockpit gauges), and even a flight management system (FMS) used for navigation.

They've also showed their age a bit. They were having cracks develop along the stringer that ties into the support between the two canopies. This caused them to put a 3g limitation on the jet.

I was really impressed by the maintenance folks who have dedicated their careers to keeping these old birds in the air. It reminded me of an old mechanic trying to keep a classic car on the road...one that can do Mach 1.

benguttery
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posted 10-23-2019 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for benguttery   Click Here to Email benguttery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
904 is still registered to NASA and on the FAA Registry as N904NA. It originally carried the military serial number 63-8204. Yes, it dates to 1963/1964 timeframe, but was been upgraded several times since then.

Gordon Eliot Reade
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posted 11-27-2020 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gordon Eliot Reade   Click Here to Email Gordon Eliot Reade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The T-38 is 60 years old and it still looks like the coolest thing with wings. I'd absolute love to fly one.

Tom
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posted 06-05-2023 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was wondering if anyone here had any background information regarding T-38 (Tail #02)? Thank you very much!

Tom
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posted 03-20-2024 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone here know if there's a website that has information regarding the NASA T-38 fleet? In particular I am looking for information regarding T-38 with tail number 02? Thank you.

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