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Topic: Saturn V launch pad flame trench material
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Chuckster01 Member Posts: 873 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Jan 2014
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posted 06-15-2019 07:31 AM
During the launch of the Saturn V rockets there were flame diverters under the rocket to direct the exhaust in the direction of the flame trench openings. It is my understanding that these had a protective coating so they did not melt under the immense heat of the F-1 engines, allowing the diverters to be used many times. Does anyone know how these were protected or why they did not melt away during launch? |
oly Member Posts: 905 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2015
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posted 06-15-2019 08:20 AM
Details of the flame deflector and flame trench can be found here. The design lasted for many years. |
Headshot Member Posts: 864 From: Vancouver, WA, USA Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 06-15-2019 10:30 AM
Pages 38-39 of the Sept. 6, 1971 issue of Aviation Week & Space Technology has photos of the launch pad and flame deflector after Apollo 15 lifted off. The article also describes some of the procedures, materials and coatings used to mitigate flame and heat damage. |
Jim Behling Member Posts: 1463 From: Cape Canaveral, FL Registered: Mar 2010
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posted 06-15-2019 01:25 PM
Refractory brick was used. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 2913 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 06-15-2019 02:24 PM
The flame deflectors used for the Apollo and Shuttle eras, Chuck, used a refractory material known as Fondu Fyre (FF), or WA-1G.The blast deflectors consisted of a thick steel base plate that had been covered with the strong heat resistant WA-1G material. During such a launch, a 42'-high flame deflector was subjected to a water deluge that dampened acoustic vibrations and high temperatures of possibly 2,000 degrees F. But the FF-material, Chuck, at times did not always meet its requirements due to continued erosion concerns after many launches. The current installed flame deflector at Pad 39B is an improvement from the earlier blast deflectors, though. There are about 150 thick steel cladding plates, on both sides of the blast structure, that can better withstand a rocket's thrust plume and can be repaired and replaced more easier than beforehand. |
Chuckster01 Member Posts: 873 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Jan 2014
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posted 06-16-2019 08:19 AM
Thank you very much for the information. I have a fairly large piece of the protective coating that was from the estate of Frank Merlino. It is in a bag labeled "Flame Bucket Protective Coating, AS-507, Apollo 12. 14 Nov. 69"I have been trying to determine its exact origin but it is ultra cool to have something that was melted by the heat of the F-1 engines. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 2913 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 06-16-2019 03:10 PM
There are a few more other "F-1 melted down" artifacts and/or souvenirs from a Pad 39 launch of an Apollo/Saturn V rocket.Next time we see each other, Chuck, I'll give you a complimentary used flame deflector souvenir from July 28, 1971, just two days after the launch of AS-510 (Apollo 15). One of my favorite souvenirs from a Pad 39 launch of a Saturn would be used launch pad wind instrumentation devices that had been affixed to the LUT/ML, of which, there were only three units attached for every launch event. One, on display in my new office, is about 6" long that contains three circular hard plastic "cup-like" devices. As a Saturn V rocket ignites and begins to rise up from its mobile launcher, the exhaust plume of the five mighty F-1 engines would pass right by the wind measurement devices. This one came off ML-3 in April 1972 right after the Apollo 16 lunar launch. With less than 50 feet or so from a near-by moving in-flight Saturn V, the "cups" of the wind devices would be misfigured and/or bent out of shape. The end result would be an actual object that had been effected by a Saturn V launch vehicle liftoff! Perhaps other unusual souvenirs after a giant Saturn V launch would actually involve coinage (yes, you heard me correctly)! Before a Saturn V launch, some of the space center workers with access to Complex 39 would insert or locate U.S. coins at the base of the 450'-long flame trench area. As the five F-1 engines roared to life, their exhaust plume of 7.5 million pounds of thrust would come into contact with a coin(s). A few days afterwards, the coins would be retrieved after a liftoff and would be completely flattened and/or melted down with hardly no visible features on the coin itself. I've got a few of these in my private collection of Pad 39 artifacts, some of my all-time favorite launch pad related relics. |
bklyn55 Member Posts: 361 From: Milford, CT Registered: Dec 2014
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posted 06-16-2019 03:35 PM
What about the small piece of trench included in the lucite along with the Apollo 10 and Apollo 11 pieces? |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 2913 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 06-16-2019 03:41 PM
That's from one of the refractory bricks that had been loosened or dislodged from a flame trench wall after a Pad 39 launch in May/July 1969. |