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TLIGuy
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posted 09-07-2017 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TLIGuy   Click Here to Email TLIGuy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone seen what the head would look like on the flashlight with the aluminized reflector? I understand it will look similar to the original but how close I'm curious.

David C
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posted 09-08-2017 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 328KF:
Has anyone asked the question yet?
I've asked, still waiting for a response.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-11-2017 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Javier Barbarin of Barbolight sent out an update to its backers with answers to the recent questions posted here:
Differences on reflector and acrylic lense. The first prototype we made to test the assembly was a functional one, but it is not good for giving you an idea, and the picture does not make justice to the final result. My advice is: if you are looking for the highest, functionality, reliability and efficiency then go for the acrylic version (frosted lense, like in the picture); if you want it looking closer to the original get the glass version + reflector. Looks nicer, still a very good flashlight, but not the best that can be achieved with nowadays technology.

Regarding the light projected, the reflector one has a narrower angle, but thanks to the "orange peel" reflector the transition from spot to corona is still soft. The corona on this one is limited to 70 degrees, but on the TIR lense (frosted) there is residual light output, but still useful on a 150 degree angle.

Two choices for multiple penlight backers. Unfortunately this is something I should have thought before, but now I can't repeat the survey. Yes, you can choose any type, but I'm going to ask you to send me an email.

9- 2017 date engraved. We are doing a great effort to be able to offer 4 different options on a small production, and initially the 2017 option had to be discarded because of the very limited interest among the backers. In fact we were planning to make just one engraving, and finally we decided to go for the two top choices.

Thanks again for trusting us. I'll do my best to post pictures of the "glass lens" version as soon as possible.

David C
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posted 09-14-2017 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robert, just got the same reply.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-29-2017 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Update from Barbolight:
When we offered the glass version, and we did it because we wanted as many of you asked for it, we knew that it was not going to be easy, specially of we keep in mind that the delivery date since the end of the funding, was very tight.

The light was designed for a very specific TIR lens, and now we wanted it to make a glass + aluminum reflector version. Unfortunately it is not a "swap" and lot of things had to be modified and tested again to allow the penlight be assembled with both solutions while keeping same performance. Focusing point was not the same and metal reflector can cause a short, so we had to make a plastic injection part for it; water resistance can't be achieved the same way, and we had to design a test a reflector from zero, as there was nothing in the market available matching our dimensions and requirements. The sapphire glass had to be customized too, even we tested many versions of AR coating (anti reflex). We could not allow glass parts to touch metal parts, because that way is too sensitive to impacts...

Being said this I would like to apologize for not being able to match the expected delivery date, and I hope you will understand that technically it's been a challenge which we have enjoyed.

Being said this I would like to tell you that now that this version has been already fully tested and it works nicely. We have obtained better results that expected and the efficiency is really good as well as beam quality. Mass order has been launched and we expect if everything goes smoothly to deliver all of them before the end of this month.

Oh, I'm adding too a picture of the packaging, which I do think is a good design. We made it looking at the "flight plans."

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posted 12-07-2017 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread hasn't been updated in awhile. It sounds like the flashlights are ready to be shipped, and Javier also posted this:
Our dear supporters, we would like you to know that some of the lights we have produced will be used on the movie "First Man," which I guess will make them even more a collector’s item.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-22-2017 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Barbolight Apollo Penlight arrived yesterday. It comes in a very nice case with an anti static cloth draped over it inside.

Here is the Barbolight replica (at top) with an authentic ACR FA-5 penlight from the August 1972 production that was flown on two space shuttle missions.

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posted 12-22-2017 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks very nice. Can't wait to get mine.

David C
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posted 12-22-2017 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did anyone get a shipping notice email for theirs?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-22-2017 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't receive any advance word that mine was being delivered. UPS just showed up with it.

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posted 12-22-2017 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Out of interest, how similar are the dimensions to the real thing?

I don't know if they actually had an original to work with, so it may have been based on photos and details from published specs, auctions listings etc.

Personally I don't care too much as long as it's close but I'm sure some people will be unhappy at every little difference.

Robert Pearlman
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The replica is slightly shorter — the ACR FA-5 is 5.125 inches long; the Barbolight is 4.9 inches.

The knurling on the head is different, but different production runs of the ACR FA-5 had different style knurling, so the Barbolight may have been based on an earlier model than mine.

The inscribed text is larger on the Barbolight and the "On" and "Off" labels are farther apart. The on or off arrow/notch indicator on the under lip of the head is absent on the Barbolight.

The other major physical difference is the weight. I don't have a small scale handy, but the Barbolight is noticeably heavier (without batteries installed).

I would say the Barbolight replica is close enough to make for a nice conversation piece and different enough to never be confused for the original (assuming you are familiar with the original).

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posted 12-22-2017 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine arrived today, and I am very happy with it. But when I put batteries in and twist it, it turns on when I turn it toward "OFF". Almost like "ON" is engraved in the wrong place, perhaps it should have lined up with the manufacturing date.

mode1charlie
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posted 12-22-2017 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine too. I suspect it's a design flaw.

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posted 12-23-2017 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Altidude   Click Here to Email Altidude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just received my two flashlights. Sort of disappointed in that they gave me the wrong date of 69 instead of 68. Don't know if they will fix it.

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posted 12-23-2017 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo14LMP   Click Here to Email Apollo14LMP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can I buy one of these? Or do you need to pay into the Kickstarter? Thanks.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-23-2017 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Barbolight has a website, but it appears for now the penlights were only available through the now-closed Kickstarter campaign. You might inquire with them.

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posted 12-25-2017 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charlie16   Click Here to Email Charlie16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many American friends have received, do you know when it will also ship to Europe? Thank you.

TLIGuy
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posted 12-25-2017 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TLIGuy   Click Here to Email TLIGuy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious if anyone on the east coast has received their delivery? I was really looking forward to it arriving last week but I'm still waiting here in Virginia.

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posted 12-25-2017 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still waiting in North Carolina, too. Although I saw elsewhere that one buyer in Atlanta received his.

Larry McGlynn
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posted 12-26-2017 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My replica penlight came in today. I have Gene Cernan's penlight that went to the lunar surface on Apollo 17. Gene had cleaned it up and presented to a friend's son on his Bar Mitzvah and the kid sold it.

The penlight and the replica look pretty good together. The replica works better.

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posted 12-26-2017 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Received in North Carolina today. All I can say is outstanding!

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posted 12-26-2017 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DG27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Received mine just before the holiday. Beautifully done, and I am happy with it. However it does appear that with batteries installed, the OFF engraving is 180 degrees out on the barrel. Still a beautiful light. I wish I had bought a couple more of them.

Larry, if possible, I would love to see a photo comparison with your Apollo 17 flown penlight, similar to what Robert had posted of his Shuttle flown penlight.

Gilbert
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posted 01-04-2018 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Received mine yesterday. The box was damaged but the light was OK. I really like it.

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posted 01-05-2018 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panther494   Click Here to Email Panther494     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm getting impatient. Anyone this side of the pond received theirs yet?

Larry McGlynn
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posted 01-05-2018 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DG27:
I would love to see a photo comparison with your Apollo 17 flown penlight...
I tried to take a photograph of the two penlights together, but the Apollo 17 penlight is inside a framed presentation along with a letter from Gene and his family.

A cell phone photo was out of focus and badly lighted. When I get the chance to shoot a photo with my camera and light system, then I will try to get a better shot for you.

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posted 01-05-2018 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Panther494:
Anyone this side of the pond received theirs yet?
No sign yet here in mainland Europe. I had kind of thought with a Spanish made replica we might see them delivered this side of the pond first but it seems that an 'America First' policy has been applied...

Charlie16
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posted 01-05-2018 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charlie16   Click Here to Email Charlie16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am very disappointed because I have not even received the torch or replies to my emails.

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posted 01-05-2018 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did ask also where I can order it, not any reaction, it seems it's for a small club.

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posted 01-05-2018 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charlie16   Click Here to Email Charlie16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NEWS! After writing on the cS forum, the answer has suddenly arrived! I'll be able to say something Monday.

Maybe it's time for Europe? Stay in touch.

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Originally posted by apolloprojeckt:
I did ask also where I can order it, not any reaction, it seems it's for a small club.
It was a Kickstarter project that has now ended. It's possible that the manufacturer may decide to make a new production run later, but that's a business decision.

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posted 01-06-2018 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DMScott   Click Here to Email DMScott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a photo with my three flashlights.
  • Left - Barbolight's Apollo ACR penlight replica.

  • Middle - Original ACR FA-5 flashlight serial number 3016 Date of manufacture August 1972. There is no record of this flashlight being flown.

  • Right - Wooden mockup of flashlight used by astronauts in training in the simulator.

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posted 01-06-2018 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panther494   Click Here to Email Panther494     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the comparison photos. Why would they use a wooden mock up during simulator training?

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posted 01-06-2018 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panther494   Click Here to Email Panther494     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, surprise surprise. Very late post delivery today. I have my torch. Well worth the wait, nice packaging, no damage.

Mine has the same issue with the on and off rotation being reversed but I can live with that, will be kept for display purposes anyway.

Serial number on mine is 0311. Would be interesting to see how many have been made.

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posted 01-06-2018 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Javier Barbarin has provided an update:
First of all I would like to say that we are very pleased by the reactions of people who have received them. As a first time project there has been some small mistakes with some backers, and we are working on fixing them quickly, but other than that it seems quality, finish and light output has been satisfying for everyone.
  1. Shipping. Every single penlight has been shipped. We have used different methods in order to make it as fast, safe and reasonable as we could. Most of our sales of dive lights are done by distributors, and we don't retail too much, so we are not optimized for this.

    Some of the shippings have costed us as much as 60 US$, which is a nonsense. USA was done from LA, as we have there a warehouse, but rest of the world were done from Spain. We were setting up a small warehouse too in Hong Kong but we wanted the lights shipped before. Everyone will receive their lights, and even if they are lost because of the courier we will ship replacement ones.

  2. ON-OFF "Issue". Some of the pictures we used for the design (we had not a real one) give us the idea placing the ON and OFF indications on those positions, and I think that on a "round" switch it is not bad or good, it is relative, but I understand that it can be weird. Well, there is nothing we can do to change that, as long as it is laser engraved.

  3. Will more penlights be produced? Definitively, yes. In fact we had to make 500 bodies and 1000 PCBa drivers to get access to the machines with the level of accuracy and finish we wanted, and of course some extra had to be produced for destructive tests and replacement in case of mistakes. The remaining lights will be offered initially to backers as a way or showing you our gratitude.

  4. When they will be produced? Soon, in fact we are working on it, but we are thinking on how to do it to provide the best possible service.

  5. Am I quick replying emails and messages? No, I'm not. In fact I'm not a commercial type of guy, I'm more focused on product design and manufacturing... but I reply to everyone and I do my best to take care of customers. Some of our clients have been diving with our flashlights and trusting their lives in our products for more than a decade, and they will choose Barbolight every single time... even if I'm not the fastest replying emails.
Christmas is over and we will be back in normal schedule from Monday. Thanks for your support and comprehension.

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Still haven't got my flashlight but I see Barbolight are now offering extras to original backers at 105€, which I assume is reduced from the final "public" price of 125€ since he mentions a 16% discount.

I hope my example arrives soon as I'd like to see it before deciding whether to order any more.

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posted 01-09-2018 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chris, I think that you will like the penlight. While it is not a precise replica, it is very close. The on/off is a tab off, but not bad. The knurling on the light and lens section is good, but to be precise it is one row of knurling off. The light works better. Its brighter and has a bright spot and a defused area around it. I have ordered two more of them from the company.

I am actually glad that it is not a exactly precise replica, because how many could show up on eBay as the "real" thing?

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posted 01-09-2018 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charlie16   Click Here to Email Charlie16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not have my flashlight yet but I see that Barbolight now offers extras to the original supporters. However, to be honest, you need to send to those who have funded the project and then sell it to everyone.

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posted 01-09-2018 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steven Kaplan   Click Here to Email Steven Kaplan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agree — still waiting for delivery in New Jersey.

David C
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posted 01-10-2018 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine finally made it. I've never held a real one, but it looks just like the the pictures I've seen and feels very nice. Weighty and solid. Sure I wish the ON/ OFF issue wasn't there, but it's unnoticeable if you're just displaying it. If you're using it then the issue is trivial. You don't look at the engravings (certainly not in the dark), you just twist it. Overall, very happy.


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