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mmmoo
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posted 02-05-2011 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mmmoo   Click Here to Email mmmoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sure you all are aware of these Apollo 15 map sections, which are inscribed as "Flown To The Moon" by Worden, and seem to be only flown to lunar orbit.

However the map sections are identical to the Apollo 17 LM lunar surface descent maps sold by Cernan and Apollo 16 LM maps sold by Duke.

All three were sections, which were split from a larger map, all three have a large plate number in the top right, and all three have a time remaining until landing on the left side.

The Apollo 15 map also originally came from the collection of Dave Scott, not Worden. Scott sold the complete map at Aurora but only mentioned that it was used in lunar orbit.

So my question is, is the Apollo 15 map actually from the lunar module and therefore flown to the lunar surface, not just lunar orbit? Or was there a similar map used in the command module?

SpaceAholic
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posted 02-05-2011 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to the Apollo 15 ASL the following maps were carried:

onboard CSM:

Lunar Landmark Map (1) SEB32100115-322
Orbital Map (1) SKB32100058-201

onboard LM:

LM Lunar Surface Maps (1) SKB32100116-371

(subsequently transferred back from the LM to CSM)

mmmoo
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posted 02-05-2011 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mmmoo   Click Here to Email mmmoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the reply.

Was not the SKB32100058-201 an Earth orbital map?

If so, then the only lunar map (apart from the landmarks maps) is the one in the LM (SKB32100116-371) which would still seem to suggest that the Apollo 15 map sections in question are indeed from SKB32100116-371 and therefore flown to the lunar surface?

mmmoo
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posted 07-14-2011 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mmmoo   Click Here to Email mmmoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am still hoping to find out if anyone has any thoughts on whether these Apollo 15 map sections were actually flown in the LM.

SpaceAholic
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posted 07-14-2011 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe the LM carried map was in book form on cardstock (much like the cue cards).

mmmoo
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posted 07-14-2011 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mmmoo   Click Here to Email mmmoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think that is correct, if you take a look at the COA for Apollo 17 LM Flown Maps it states that the map sections were taped together to form a continuous loop, and were numbered 1 to 18 in the top right corner. The Apollo 15 map sections also have a number in the top right corner

It seems that it was Command Module Maps that have ring binder holes in them

Here are all three maps, all have a plate number in the top right, and number of minutes until touchdown eg. '+1' or '+2' on the left

Apollo 15

Apollo 16 Flown in LM

Apollo 17 Flown in LM

SpaceAholic
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posted 07-14-2011 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Makes sense...

rjurek349
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posted 02-01-2013 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rjurek349   Click Here to Email rjurek349     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't know if you all did any more research on this topic, but the A15 stowage list indicates three sets of the Orbit Monitor Chart maps flew -- two in the CM and one in the LM.

Anyway -- if anyone is interested, I have an extra one of these map plates for sale (with LOA), as well as Dick Gordon's training used complete set of the Orbit Monitor Chart (hand signed and certified by him as used in training). If anyone is interested in those, contact me via email.

4allmankind
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posted 02-02-2013 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4allmankind   Click Here to Email 4allmankind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting discussion indeed. Certainly a compelling case for the maps being carried to the surface.

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