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TRS
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posted 09-25-2009 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRS   Click Here to Email TRS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MrSpace86:
What would really help me is if I saw a photo of the actual items. I don't really want to cough up $700 in the dark but it seems we are in a time crunch here!
I'm tempted to agree - with less than 14 days to come up with over $1200 (after conversion to the local currency) it seems a bit of a fast ask without any photos - particularly for two items that are not from the spacecraft proper.

The items sound fine but I do wonder if the extremely fast turnaround to retain our numbers is going to turn some current number holders off.

That said - I will probably renew - but then again it is the equivalent of a half dozen flying lessons...

MrSpace86
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posted 09-25-2009 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't really mind not having the same number (after further thought!) so I will most likely hold off until they are released or until photos appear.

If I find them to be nice, then I might go ahead and renew without the same number. I might even wait until one or two of them ship out. I know that when I saw photos of the first series, I did not even hesitate to purchase. But as mentioned by Craig, two of them aren't even from the spacecraft itself.

Leon Ford
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posted 09-25-2009 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leon Ford   Click Here to Email Leon Ford     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just contacted the ASF and renewed my artifact subscription. It will be nice to keep #4 and have the complete collection. Hope they are able to keep doing this for many years!!!

machbusterman
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posted 09-25-2009 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for machbusterman   Click Here to Email machbusterman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel exactly the same way Leon! Would be nice to have (in future years) pieces from Mercury, Gemini and Skylab programs too.

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posted 09-25-2009 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I, too, am a little hesitant to pony up the full purchase price for items that will not be available until mid-late next year, sight unseen. I wouldn't mind paying a modest deposit to hold my number, and then pay the balance when the first of the set is nearing shipment. Maybe the ASF will read these posts and take them to heart.

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posted 09-25-2009 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NightHawk117   Click Here to Email NightHawk117     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by machbusterman:
I feel exactly the same way Leon! Would be nice to have (in future years) pieces from Mercury, Gemini and Skylab programs too.

I agree!

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posted 09-27-2009 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff   Click Here to Email Jeff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After some thought, I’ve decided not to renew my membership for the 2010 series. I realize that the scholarship fund is a worthy cause, and I was more than happy to contribute last year. I was very excited... to say the least with the artifacts in the 2009 series.

However, my reaction to the 2010 series is tepid at best. Receiving a piece of Beta cloth and a piece of a LM Schematics page, which was once historically significant... before it was cut into 200 pieces... doesn't make me say "wow, I have to add these to my collection".

Speaking for myself, unless the artifact is part of the actual spacecraft... as it was in the 09 series... I don’t give it a second thought. This coupled with the fact that charter members are only giving a small window to decide if they want to renew their membership to retain their current number... and by the way there aren't even any pictures to review... makes this decision very easy for me.

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posted 09-28-2009 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linn LeBlanc   Click Here to Email Linn LeBlanc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad so many of you opted to renew your Space Artifacts Series already. We are really excited about this one, since it features TWO lunar artifacts, one of which was even on the lunar surface, and a segment of a space shuttle tile!

We have not posted pictures or information online, because right now it is only available to current members. It is correct that we gave you one week to renew, however, the official roll-out will not happen until the week of Oct. 12, so you have another week to decide if you haven't already done so.

The first installment will be mailed by Dec. 15, so you will have it in time for the holidays.

Here is a preview:

Thank you for your support and we look forward to bringing a second year of this Series to you!

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posted 09-28-2009 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah... I agree with Jeff. I will also go ahead and pass up on next year's. The acrylic previewed looks great, but the artifact does not really seems to fit in. Maybe in 2011. Thanks for the preview and the offer to renew! I will post pics of the Apollo 13 item when I receive it though. Still a wonderful series though that I hope continues in 2011.

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posted 09-28-2009 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linn LeBlanc   Click Here to Email Linn LeBlanc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry you will not be renewing. The Space Artifacts Series was always meant to encompass all artifacts that have flown in space, hardware and otherwise. In addition, we plan to showcase all the American space programs, so you will be seeing, Mercury, Gemini, Skylab and ASTP items as well in the future.

We can't always promise they are going to be straight off the spacecraft, but we will always guarantee a first-class, quality product.

Like last year, each of these artifacts will be accompanied by a COA signed by the donating astronaut - Edgar Mitchell, Charlie Duke and Don Williams.

Only 200 memberships will be offered in all.

MrSpace86
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posted 09-28-2009 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I never said they are not quality... I love the first series!! But I am definitely looking forward to series 3. As mentioned, the new series does not fit what I collect in terms of lucites. I love the COA, the lucite, and that it is all for a good cause. It is a great program! Thanks for the preview though!

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posted 09-28-2009 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff   Click Here to Email Jeff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree completely... I never intended for my post to place under question the professionalism of the staff or the quality of the artifacts. Terrific acrylics that are showcased in my collection. It's just that the 2010 series doesn't fit in with my collection. I’m still looking forward to my Apollo 13 acrylic showing up... and I'm also looking forward to the 2011 series.

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posted 09-28-2009 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rjurek349   Click Here to Email rjurek349     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I renewed mine yesterday as well. (Dang, Leon: you beat me to it!) The first batch was of outstanding quality, and it adds to my exisiting lucite collection. This next batch fills in two big holes, from a lucite perspective, on key missions. And my wishes are being filled in the future -- i.e, Mercury, Gemini, ASTP, etc. It is a great series, value priced, and for a good cause. Sign me up!

randyc
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posted 09-29-2009 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linn, can you post photos of the other two 2010 series acrylics?

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posted 09-30-2009 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MadSci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linn, thanks for the post of the Series 2 acrylic. Might one ask if the remaining acrylics from Series 1 could be mailed out shortly?

After all, if you're already making the Second Series acrylics, I would expect you have the First Series in hand already.

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posted 09-30-2009 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As noted by Dave Blog on September 24 on this thread:
...the third installment for 2009 will be shipped on or about November 25th.

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posted 10-01-2009 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linn LeBlanc   Click Here to Email Linn LeBlanc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will post the other two 2010 samples next week. As for sending the final 2009 artifact, you'll have to wait until November... sorry, but that's when they are scheduled to be released! SO - it will give you something to look forward to perhaps?

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posted 10-06-2009 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NightHawk117   Click Here to Email NightHawk117     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am looking forward to seeing the others!

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posted 10-30-2009 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NightHawk117   Click Here to Email NightHawk117     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Linn LeBlanc:
...the official roll-out will not happen until the week of Oct. 12, so you have another week to decide if you haven't already done so.
Have these gone public?

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posted 11-17-2009 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NightHawk117   Click Here to Email NightHawk117     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just added to their site!

2010 SAS features:

  • Apollo 14 Beta cloth segment flown to the moon with astronaut Edgar Mitchell

  • Apollo 16 Pyro System Schematic section flown to the moon surface with astronaut Charlie Duke

  • Space Shuttle Discovery Thermal Protection tile segment from astronaut Don Williams

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posted 11-17-2009 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for liebeek   Click Here to Email liebeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just curious as to your opinions: are these three artifacts just as valuable, in the historic sense not money-wise, as the 2009 series?

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posted 11-17-2009 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff   Click Here to Email Jeff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a great question... personally I feel the historical significance would be in the eyes of the individual that purchases the items. For instance, I also collect WW2 memorabilia, what I feel is a historically significant find you may feel is just a rusty piece of junk.

As I stated in an earlier post, in my humble opinion, and with all due respect to those cS members that renewed, when you take a complete schematics page that was flown, and cut it into 200 pieces it loses much of its historical value.

I feel the same in regards to the piece of Beta cloth, if it was a complete PPK or an entire flown Beta cloth bag that stored one of the two LEVAs that would be historically significant to me, not just a piece of Beta cloth that flew. The Shuttle collectible is a totally different story however, to me, that is the one collectible in this series that holds the most historical significance. It holds its own with the flown Kapton from "Spider", the flown couch material from "Odyssey" and the flown tire fragment from STS-27 and 28.

Again, this is just my opinion and I don't mean to offend or upset any of my fellow cS members.

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posted 11-18-2009 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for c11esh   Click Here to Email c11esh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is all about personal opinion. I renewed mine without hesitation.

You could look at the fact that 2 of 3 in the 2010 set are lunar pieces (one even surface flown), compared to 1 in the 2009.

I am a new, low budget collector and know I would never be able to afford a full flown page. So I am very happy having a 1/200th piece with great provenance, in a nice display and giving money to a good cause.

I agree that the shuttle tile does look very interesting.

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posted 11-25-2009 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just recieved this e-mail from the ASF folks:
Watch your mailbox for the long awaited Apollo 13 artifact, as your final shipment for the 2009 Space Artifact Series (SAS) has been mailed today!

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posted 11-27-2009 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Recieved my Apollo 13 lucite today, fantastic!!

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posted 11-27-2009 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff   Click Here to Email Jeff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Apollo 13 Acrylic was well worth the wait. I enjoyed the entire 2009 series and I’m looking forward to the 2011 series with great anticipation.

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posted 11-27-2009 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too enjoyed the 2009 series. It was spectacular. I can't wait to see what 2011 holds for us. As always, here are some pics:

#31 here.

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posted 11-27-2009 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NightHawk117   Click Here to Email NightHawk117     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Number 81 touched down today!

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posted 11-27-2009 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leon Ford   Click Here to Email Leon Ford     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well done ASF! #4 touched down today in Louisiana. Looking forward to 2010!!!

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Bravo, ASF: #11 touched down in Northwest Indiana today. A nice warm tonic on such a cold, gray day. A beautiful lucite!

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posted 11-28-2009 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daveblog   Click Here to Email daveblog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
#10 arrived in NJ yesterday! I can't wait for series 2 to start arriving next year.

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#80 in France today

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Mine arrived today and I am already in love with it. Hope it stays with me for better and worse.

I was still contemplating the 2010 series but I will probably renew. Some of you gave your opinions on why order or why not. Well, they are so beautiful the scales gave in to ordering.

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posted 12-07-2009 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PerryM   Click Here to Email PerryM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got the 2009 set and have already ordered my 2010 set. Now this is kind of an opinion from everyone I want to know. In my 2009 set the tire segment is not fully set inside of the acrylic. You can actually touch the tire. In your opinion does it make it more valuable, less valuable, or makes no difference. I think it is cool you can touch it.

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posted 12-07-2009 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My opinion is that it would be "less valuable" since it is a defective acrylic. Would you mind sharing pics? I'm sure many of us would like to see it. Anyone else have thoughts?

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It definitely sounds like it's a piece that didn't turn out right...as the tire segment should be centered inside the acrylic. It should have been caught in quality control, but must have slipped through somehow. Certainly, I doubt they would send out such a piece on purpose.

I also would like to see a picture of it, if you can share.

As for "value," it might not be worth as much if you go to re-sell it. But if you enjoy being able to touch the tire and have no plans to re-sell it, maybe it's something you would want to keep.

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posted 12-18-2009 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for set   Click Here to Email set     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just recived the first installment of the 2010 ASF Artifact Series - the Space Shuttle Thermal Tile! Wasn't expecting it so soon. It's very nicely done, just like all of the others.

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posted 12-19-2009 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for idrvball   Click Here to Email idrvball     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, based on all your great recommendations, I just finished ordering this years series. I'm looking forward to receiving them.

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posted 04-15-2010 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for machbusterman   Click Here to Email machbusterman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know when the next SAS artifact will ship?

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posted 04-16-2010 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for daveblog   Click Here to Email daveblog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received my Apollo 14 Beta Cloth lucite this morning in New Jersey.


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