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fredtrav
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posted 09-24-2013 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great piece Rich. I saw it at auction and placed a couple of bids but I knew it would go for far more than I had available. All in all it still went quite reasonably. I was surprised at the final price. Congrats.

Jurvetson
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posted 07-16-2014 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jurvetson   Click Here to Email Jurvetson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the 45th anniversary of the Apollo 11 launch, I posted a couple new additions:

The EVA handle from Columbia that Larry asked about earlier on the thread. It finally resurfaced on eBay with a "Buy it Now" option:

Having read this thread, would it be accurate to say that this is the only flown part of Columbia outside of the Smithsonian (besides Kapton foil)?

Buzz's tribute to Michael Jackson.

And I picked up a larger slice of the moon.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-16-2014 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats Steve, on the tremendous additions to your collection! That EVA handle has quite the history, beyond just traveling to the moon...
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Originally posted by Jurvetson:
...would it be accurate to say that this is the only flown part of Columbia outside of the Smithsonian?
Other than Kapton (as you've noted), Columbia's flown rotation hand controller was in private hands as of May 2013, when it was pulled from auction due to a NASA inquiry (the outcome of which has not been publicly reported, to my knowledge).

SpaceAholic
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posted 07-16-2014 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are other structural components from Columbia in private hands as well.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 07-16-2014 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a fantastic EVA handle from CM-107, however, if not already discussed beforehand, don't forget about NASA-produced heat shield core segments from Spacecraft Columbia along with several of the smaller flown Apollo 11 command module heat shield ablative plugs.

In addition, but seldom seen, are charred segment particles of 107's aft heat shield as well.

mode1charlie
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posted 07-16-2014 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fantastic piece, Steve. What an object - with a story behind it - to have in one's collection.

Jurvetson
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posted 07-17-2014 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jurvetson   Click Here to Email Jurvetson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah yes, heat shield and recovery material samples... and the rotational controller is particularly interesting. I am curious about that one… and whether David Herskowitz, Butterfields' natural history specialist, knew of it in 2000 when he summarized the EVA handle: "In my opinion, it is the only legitimate Apollo 11 artifact that has been offered to the public." The use of the word "legitimate" intrigued me. I will try to ping him about that.

Scott - a very intriguing reply... what structural elements, if you don't mind? I'd like to edit my flickr post for accuracy.

SpaceAholic
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posted 07-17-2014 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A very good sized cable harness assembly (as an example)...

cosmos-walter
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posted 07-17-2014 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apollo 11 astronauts took a cover and a postmark to the moon. Due to lack of time Neil Armstrong postmarked ​​the envelope at CM at the beginning of the flight back to Earth on July 22, 1969. This moon letter is now on display along with the stamp and the ink pad in the Postal Museum in Washington, DC.

Prior Armstrong put it three times on a flight plan. Each of the three astronauts received a trial piece. This is Buzz Aldrin's one. This piece of paper is the only postmark done at the moon in a private collection except of Mike Collins' one.

holcombeyates
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posted 07-18-2014 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for holcombeyates     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A (1x1.25") full heat shield plug with metal base, mounted in a clear lucite cylinder (3x2.5") on a 6" by 4" wooden plaque titled 'Apollo 11' with Mission Dates - ex the Deke Slayton Collection.

Can anyone please provide some history on how, where from (exactly) and the number of these plugs that were taken from the Command Module. A 1" by 1.25" plug is about as big as I have seen. It is unusual as it has a metal thread at one end. The charred end is clearly uneven and worn (as an example, an Apollo 10 example is smaller in cross section and clean cut on its charred face).

NAAmodel#240
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posted 07-18-2014 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAAmodel#240   Click Here to Email NAAmodel#240     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cosmos-walter:
Due to lack of time Neil Armstrong postmarked ​​the envelope at CM at the beginning of the flight back to Earth on July 22, 1969.
With all due respect to my friend Walter I think it was Aldrin that cancelled the envelope for the Post Office and made the three "test strikes" on the flight plan.

cosmos-walter
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posted 07-19-2014 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
David, we should consider the different personality of both Apollo 11 moon-walkers when weighing following facts:
  1. Buzz Aldrin sold his trial cancellation without mentioning that he himself postmarked it.

  2. Apollo 15 commander David Scott postmarked the letter on the lunar surface. Neil Armstrong was Apollo 11 commander.

  3. Dave Scott's cancellation on the moon is not very clear. The Apollo 11 astronaut who postmarked the official cover did a great job. The cancellation is perfect as the trial cancellations given to Aldrin and Collins are.

  4. In 1970 Neil Armstrong wrote in a letter: "In answer to your question, the moon stamp was canceled on the first day of the journey back to earth. The cancellation was completed simultaneously by all three crew members. The stamp has been returned to the Postmaster General for his disposition. The die was carried to the surface of the moon aboard the Eagle."
By the side: I am aware Buzz Aldrin and Mike Collins got one trial cancellation each. It is not clear, whether Neil did one for himself at all.


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