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LCDR Scott Schneeweis
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posted 02-04-2004 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LCDR Scott Schneeweis   Click Here to Email LCDR Scott Schneeweis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here was the solution set implemented to protect the panel...a local fabricator out in town was able to take my chicken scratch and convert it into reality:

Would appreciate any other conservation recommendations which may be applicable to stabilizing/arresting deterioration of the piece...

R/Scott Schneeweis

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posted 02-04-2004 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasamad   Click Here to Email nasamad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe you should contact the Kansas Cosmosphere for advice as they are the real experts.

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posted 02-04-2004 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejectr   Click Here to Email ejectr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd put small packets of silica inside the box to absorb any type of moisture that gets in there.

Richard
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posted 02-04-2004 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard   Click Here to Email Richard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That looks amazing! How much did that cost to get done? I can't find anyone here in Alabama that can even come close to putting something like that together.

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posted 02-04-2004 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glint   Click Here to Email Glint     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful piece of hardware and a nice display case. Can't wait to see that Contact Light come on!

Also, hope you don't have to wait all three years for that 10" Maksutov from Astro-Physics.

Glint

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posted 02-04-2004 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LCDR Scott Schneeweis   Click Here to Email LCDR Scott Schneeweis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hadn't thought about asking the Cosmosphere for conservatory info - will definitely do this once I am able to obtain a good point of contact... right now using desiccant buckets in the room..concern with putting desiccant within the sealed environment of the case was that it would make things to dry (any possibly render some of the panel material brittle?).

Cost to fabricate was $400 and took 5 days... and that's by the locals who observe Aloha Friday and take the rest of the afternoons off to go surfing!!

Glint... I am thinking it may be more then 3 years for the AP MAK-CASS... they still have people signed up from 1999 on their list!

Richard
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posted 02-04-2004 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard   Click Here to Email Richard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is amazing. I thought about trying to get a large piece framed like that, but all the places I went to did not know how to do it. The plans they came up with were completely worthless and started at around $2000. Needless to say, I haven't gotten them framed yet.

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Scott, I know you were trying to figure our whether your panel was from an earlier or later model LEM. I don't know if it helps any but there is a LEM manual on eBAY and in one of the photos you can see the LEM panel and, although its blurry, it looks like the same configuration as your panel. The manual is purported to be from 1967 but then says its for Apollo 10 (and also lists mission AS 205/208A). So some of those dates and mission numbers don't seem to make sense but I would guess the 1967 year is correct.

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posted 02-16-2004 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LCDR Scott Schneeweis   Click Here to Email LCDR Scott Schneeweis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for calling my attention to the publication...You must have tremendous visual acuity. I have sent an email off to the owner to ask for a better image of the page (heck of a lot cheaper then paying the grand + that this manual is going to set somebody back). Recently received from a former Grumman employee the below line drawings...

Here's the first which was issued for a variant of the panel in 1966... its identical to the one in my collection.

And here's a line drawing from sometime post 1967... this appears to be closer to the publicly available images taken of the interior of Columbia:

So the evidence continues to mount that this panel was of earlier design (66/67 timeframe) which would be consistent with either an LTA or LEM 2, 3 design version. Have been told that no two panels were identical as they were modified/tailored to each mission...

R/Scott

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Actually I just saved the photo and then enlarged it with the Microsoft Windows Picture Viewer. Its not very clear but you can make out that it matches your panel more than the Apollo 11 panel. I also recently saw a panel in a video of a later flight and it looked more like the Apollo 11 panel(can't remember which video or mission now, maybe the PBS Nova "To the Moon" video; when I watch it again I'll take note). Good luck
--Mick

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posted 06-10-2004 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LCDR Scott Schneeweis   Click Here to Email LCDR Scott Schneeweis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This panel has been definitively identified as an operational spare for Spider (LM 3 / Apollo 9). A huge thanks to John Fongheiser of Historic Space systems who worked his magic and helped me to obtain the panel drawings and Mr. Frank Pullo, a former Grumman Test Engineer on the LM project for facilitating the identification.

With the drawings in hand efforts will focus on reenergizing the the photoluminecent panel to take some photos...

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posted 06-13-2004 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Derby ODonnell   Click Here to Email Derby ODonnell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fragile items like this panel should be stored in an inert gas and protected from damaging UV light. I would encase with 1/2" Lexan (polycarbonate) because it naturally absorbs UV, is shatterproof, easy to machine, and isn't too expensive. Provide a seal with gasketing or o-rings. Drill and tap for two NPT port fittings, then pull a vacuum on one, shut vacuum valve, backfill with nitrogen, shut valve. Oh, and Lexan scratches easily, so make sure you have a clear hardcoat on at least the viewing sides.

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