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OuterOrbiter
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posted 10-12-2003 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OuterOrbiter   Click Here to Email OuterOrbiter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is anyone familiar with space shuttle main engine (SSME) gimbal bolts?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-14-2003 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a gimbal bolt:

This bolt and nut set were part of Columbia's main engines (SSME) gimbal bearing, which acts as the thrust interface between the engine and orbiter.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 10-14-2003 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are eight gimbal bolts assigned to each Space Shuttle Main Engine; I still have a few of them that actually flew from two shuttle missions.

JBoe
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posted 12-06-2014 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JBoe   Click Here to Email JBoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The gimbal bolts looks very similar to the bolts used on Spacehab. I'm sure it's totally different shape and diameter, but is it made of the same composition?

Joel Katzowitz
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posted 12-07-2014 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joel Katzowitz   Click Here to Email Joel Katzowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The gimbal bolt is about 4.75" long and 1" in diameter.

James Brown
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posted 12-07-2014 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Brown   Click Here to Email James Brown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have three of these bolts. One each from Columbia, Discovery and Endeavour. Would love to find ones from the other two orbiters.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-07-2014 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
James, since the bolts are part of the main engines, which were not orbiter-specific, are you sure yours did not fly on Atlantis and Challenger as well?

James Brown
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posted 12-09-2014 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Brown   Click Here to Email James Brown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure. The Discovery bolt was removed following STS-95, Columbia's following STS-65, and Endeavour's following STS-89. I have the paperwork for all three stating when they were removed, but nothing for them prior. It's possible I guess.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 12-09-2014 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do they tell which main engine they were from? Or, you can see which SSMEs flew on what missions and make a possible guess where they previously flown.

James Brown
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posted 12-09-2014 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Brown   Click Here to Email James Brown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My STS-89 paperwork does state engine no. 2 with a part number (the bolt).

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-09-2014 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Engine no. 2 on STS-89 was serial no. 2044. That particular engine's first flight was STS-89, so no prior history.

Joel Katzowitz
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posted 12-09-2014 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joel Katzowitz   Click Here to Email Joel Katzowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Robert, is looking up engine serial numbers something that a mere mortal can do? I also have have two of the same gimbal bolts as Jimmy (STS-65 and STS-95). I'd love to look up their histories.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-09-2014 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There may be other ways to do so, but I'm cross-referencing a couple of different documents. If you know and can share the engine positions for your two bolts, I am happy to look them up.

Joel Katzowitz
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posted 12-09-2014 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joel Katzowitz   Click Here to Email Joel Katzowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
STS-65 Columbia engine #2
STS-95 Discovery engine #2

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-09-2014 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem, happy to help.
  • Engine no. 2 on STS-65 was serial no. 2030. It flew on STS-27, STS-30, STS-34, STS-36, STS-39, STS-44, STS-49, STS-52 prior to STS-65.

  • Engine no. 2 on STS-95 was serial no. 2043. It (coincidentally) flew on STS-89 (in position no. 1) prior to STS-95.
One thing that dawns on me is that in a situation like the STS-65 bolt, we don't know when it was installed. I don't think we can automatically assume it dates back to the first use of the engine, unless the paperwork you have supports that.

Joel Katzowitz
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posted 12-09-2014 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joel Katzowitz   Click Here to Email Joel Katzowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The paperwork, for me anyway, is almost impossible to decipher. However the STS-95 and the STS-65 bolts were both removed because they had "achieved their torque cycle limit." I assume that means they weren't damaged but had reached the end of their life expectancy. That would indicate they flew on at least several of the missions you mentioned.

In case you were wondering, the paperwork states the list price for a gimbal bolt is $550.

SpaceAholic
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posted 12-09-2014 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rocketdyne produced a pocket data booklet on the SSME that included tables listing engine/flight vehicle/mission affiliation. Extract from an early version of the booklet:

William Pace
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posted 08-18-2020 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for William Pace   Click Here to Email William Pace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Space Shuttle SSME gimbal bolts were not assigned to a specific engine. They were installed in the orbiter thrust structure,at one of three engine positions 1, 2, and 3. These bolts were removed and replaced when they met the limit for torque cycles, every time an engine was removed and replaced was one cycle.

I know this information first hand as during my time as a Space Shuttle Senior Technician (1988-2011), I have removed and installed new replacement bolts on several occasions.

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