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posted 07-07-2009 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecraft films   Click Here to Email spacecraft films     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We were asked to create an exclusive piece for Barnes and Noble stores for the 40th Anniversary of Apollo 11. It is a 1 DVD set. We created it along the same lines as our other sets - long form unfiltered material.

"First Lunar Landing" is now available, exclusively in Barnes and Noble stores and on Barnesandnoble.com.

The set contains a multi-angle launch sequence with a surround sound audio track. The footage from the launch sequences were derived from a new HD transfer.

The lunar landing 16mm film is updated, derived from an HD transfer of the original film. It also contains a commentary track from the crew recorded during the post-flight debriefing sessions.

The centerpiece of the set is the complete EVA. This piece includes the TV, 16mm film, and still photos. It is constructed in widescreen. The TV is video-derived and has been given image processing and noise reduction yielding a much better result than the existing kinescope. The 16mm material is from an HD transfer, and the stills are from new scans.

A recovery section is also included, as well as an extensive selection of photos in a slideshow, including all of the mission still images. (Thanks to J.L. Pickering and Retro Space Images for some selections from their Apollo 11 still image set)

The set is available in most stores on the 40th Anniversary Moon Landing table. In some stores it is featured in the DVD section. I understand in some instances it is behind the counter (due to loss prevention).

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posted 07-07-2009 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there anything on this special B&N set (e.g. HD transfer of 16mm film, improved EVA video) that will not be on the new "Apollo 11: To The Moon" set?

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Hmmm... the best way to answer this is to say that there are a few things that will not be on the "To The Moon" set. That having been said, there are some things that will be improved upon, even from this point, on the "To The Moon" set.

Mostly the difference is in formatting. Because "To The Moon" is a linear presentation of the whole mission, there is only one launch sequence, and the landing will not contain the additional commentary, nor will the stills involve material "surrounding" the mission... just those taken during the mission.

And since "To The Moon" is 4 DVDs and linear, it will contain all of the rest of the TV as it happens in the mission, etc.

But for a smaller capsule of the mission, I'm pretty proud of the "First Lunar Landing" set for B&N. It covers a lot of ground at good value.

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posted 07-07-2009 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, great! So to have it all, I will have to keep my "Apollo 11: Man on the Moon," and get both the "First Lunar Landing" AND "Apollo 11: To The Moon." You might think that someone is trying to make money off of this.

Actually, I already have four versions of the Apollo 11 set (the original two-part SF set, the combined 3-disc SF set, the Fox set, and the re-issued SF set), so what will two more sets matter? If you look up the word "completist" in the dictionary, you just might find my picture. Or does my username say it all?

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posted 07-07-2009 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecraft films   Click Here to Email spacecraft films     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The possibilities have moved along so fast... considering that the first Apollo 11 set came out over 7 years ago. The good news is that the quality of the material continues to improve... and will continue to improve...

It is, after all, the 40th anniversary. And it has been almost 5 years since we released an Apollo 11 edition (excluding the re-issue after Fox... I didn't think anyone had both!)...

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Surround sound of a Saturn V launch? Woo hoo! I'm sold. I'm running down the street to B&N to find that.

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posted 07-07-2009 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecraft films   Click Here to Email spacecraft films     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it is reconstructed surround sound. It wasn't recorded through separate mics in discrete surround, obviously.

But it should rattle the timbers pretty well.

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Well, it is reconstructed surround sound. It wasn't recorded through separate mics in discrete surround, obviously.

But it should rattle the timbers pretty well.


I went out and bought it yesterday after I posted the message. Took a quick peek at a few sections, and my cats took off out of the room when I tried the launch angles.

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posted 07-08-2009 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecraft films   Click Here to Email spacecraft films     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I can say is . I wasn't stingy with the low frequencies.

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posted 07-08-2009 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for xlsteve   Click Here to Email xlsteve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I picked this up today during my lunch hour. I look forward to annoying my neighbors.

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And it has been almost 5 years since we released an Apollo 11 edition (excluding the re-issue after Fox... I didn't think anyone had both!)...
I bought the re-issued SF set just to get a case that matched the other non-Fox sets.

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posted 07-08-2009 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JPSastro   Click Here to Email JPSastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BRAVO on the low frequency effects... I have NEVER seen the cover over my subwoofer literally vibrate and be as animated (looks so cool) as it was!!

My youngest cat who naps on the sub WENT AIRBORNE!! I needed a major laugh... I wish I had a video of her! I replayed that section and both my cats poofed out there fur. Neighbor below heard it through the concrete floor.

Oh, the video is most excellent too! THANKS!

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posted 07-09-2009 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is the 4 DVD-set "Apollo 11 to the Moon" already available?

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posted 07-09-2009 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow this sounds great. Thanks Mark - I know where I'm going on my lunch hour!

Since you mention HD transfers a lot, are you planning a Blu Ray version of either?

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posted 07-09-2009 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecraft films   Click Here to Email spacecraft films     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, the Apollo 11: To The Moon set is not available. An announcement is coming very soon on the release of the Apollo 11 4 DVD set.

Information on Blu-ray plans will also be announced soon. Our first Blu-ray, for "Live From The Moon" is in production now. More soon.

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Got mine at lunch today! I'm very impressed and happy to have this in my collection. One disappointment is that my DVD player's Audio switching function doesn't appear to work, so I couldn't hear the landing with the Mission Control loop comments on Audio 2. The digital video transfer of the 16mm landing sequence is excellent!

I wonder what the "typical" buyer will think when they play this and there's no voiceover narration and dramatic music throughout. I found it tremendously refreshing to experience the "raw" footage once again!

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Got it tonight and am watching the landing as I type! I could not get the Audio 2 to work either. The highlight so far were my two teen age children telling me to turn the launch sound down! "Dad if you blow out the surround sound you are in big trouble" Hey the Eagle has landed!

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Bought this Thursday evening and just finished watching it. Excellent production. The video noise reduction on the TV footage is astounding, and the addition of the side-by-side DAC footage and still photos in widescreen is inspired. This is the DVD I'll be returning to when I want to see the full Apollo 11 EVA again.

The only (minor) complaints are that the footage of the lift-off from the Moon is missing, and I'd have preferred it if the presentation had switched to full screen after the still photos on the Moon had ended. And although this looked great on a widescreen HD TV, those with standard definition TVs may be disappointed.

But even so, bravo on an excellent production.

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I had a chance to watch a bit of this last night, and of course I went to the multi-angle Saturn launch. I turned on my surround sound, and, man, that was impressive. The windows in my living room vibrated. I had read accounts of what it was like to view a Saturn launching, but this gave me a 'taste' of what it must have been like.

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the footage of the lift-off from the Moon is missing...
You do realize that there is no footage from the Apollo 11 lunar liftoff? Buzz didn't start the camera until after liftoff. Most documentaries use footage from Apollo 14 when they cover the Apollo 11 lunar liftoff.

Thanks for the kind words on the production. We were happy to be able to provide this sort of a treatment in a shorter set.

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Mission Control loop... on Audio 2....

This was not placed on the set due to space, but apparently it remained at the bottom of the menu... sorry about that.

In a few days a companion web site at firstlunarlanding.com will be up (it is not up yet) and I will place the landing with the flight director's loop on that site, as well as some additional material that did not make the set.

I think I will also place a piece on the site about the Apollo 11 lunar liftoff, and how the Apollo 14 footage is often used instead. If memory serves, the only lunar liftoffs taken through the window with the 16mm camera are Apollo 14, 15 and 16. 12 and 17 experienced camera problems. On 17 Schmitt had to hold down the button to keep the camera running.

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posted 07-16-2009 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cjh5801   Click Here to Email cjh5801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, does the EVA footage included on this disc include the Lowry processed video? It would be hard to see how they could improve upon it.

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Well, that is an interesting story. We placed the complete EVA on this disc. And Lowry has not processed the complete EVA as yet.

At the time this disc was produced and mastered (in order to make our deadline), the Lowry project was not even yet settled and begun. Therefore we made the decision to proceed with our own image processing and enhancement using most of the same source material as later used in the Lowry restoration. The result of this process is on the "First Lunar Landing" disc.

Personally I'm looking forward to comparing the Lowry result with our own result when I have a chance to get back to it. I'm very pleased with our end result. But most of all, even though the primary copies were erased, I am really, really hopeful that a slow-scan telemetry copy shows up some day. Then we would see a bigger improvement. Of course if that were to happen, it would make everyone's "restoration" obsolete.

Ultimately, and this may be the biggest positive result from the 40th anniversary, these processes are being applied to this material by multiple folks, and we're getting a better and better look at the data, and we will be applying the experience gained to the other Apollo missions. A great result for all of us interested in better quality material.

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After reading that the DVD title "First Lunar Landing" was coming out late last week here at collectSPACE, I went to my local Barnes & Noble and picked up a copy as it is an exclusive only available through them and it retails for $19.99. I must say, I was most happy to see there was a nice selection of book titles for Apollo 11's anniversary on the table there. On a later trip, I went back for Michael Collins' bio "Carrying the Fire" as it is a real bargain at $16.00.

Well, over the past couple of nights I watched the DVD, culminating in watching the moonwalk and recovery tonight.

I suppose this set might be considered something of a preview of what is to come on the 4 disc DVD set from Spacecraft films. This particular set is only one disc, but it is packed with A LOT of stuff.

The launch is covered in a combination of film from the suit up room and pad prep, along with 16mm film of activities at the pad while the launch control public address callouts take place in the background. The launch itself is from the NASA television feed to the networks (mostly black and white, but some color in spots), but then you are treated to a multi-angle selectable view of the Saturn V launch in slow motion with the stereo audio that we've become accustomed to from the "Mighty Saturns" DVD releases.

The landing footage is from the 16mm film taken from the LMP station and it is synched to two tracks, one air to ground and the second one being the mission control audio loop. You get to hear all the S band communication problems in realtime. Afterwards, the footage is again used with audio from Armstrong and Aldrin's debriefing session about how well things worked during the approach and landing. I must say, it is a rare treat to hear Neil talking about stuff related to flying as he explains it quite well in understandable terms. He also talks fully about the decision to land long and his original hopes to try and land just short of the crater.

The EVA footage is the nice bit. For those that hate multiple views on one screen, you probably won't like this as the TV transmission occupies the left half of the screen while the 16mm sequential still film (one frame per second) occupies the right half and they are synched up to each other and the audio as best as possible. When either Neil or Buzz shoot a photo, it pops up in the center of the screen at about the time the photo was taken. When the 16mm footage runs out, the pictures occupy the right side in their place.

This put the whole moonwalk into sharp 3D perspective for me as it provided context for what they were doing and when. You get a nice sense of where each astronaut was and what they were doing. There is even a bit where it is called out when Neil went to explore a crater behind the LM (mentioned in Chaikin's book). You get to listen to the dialog as well with only some brief comments by Paul Haney in mission control and no reporter commentary. There are a couple of humorous bits in there as well (I won't spoil it).

The EVA footage has been enhanced, although it seems this isn't the current project that was announced this week. Mark can provide some insight into what the source material was that he used here. It did look better then I recall the original TV transmission footage looking like though, but indeed the multi-screen format does make the imagery smaller. In my case I didn't consider it a knock though as the total presentation offered advantages over just having the TV feed on the screen or a multi-angle feed that has to be called out by the user of the DVD.

The return and recovery footage includes the last TV transmission from Columbia to Earth on the way home. Reentry coverage itself begins with film footage of the event. There is film imagery of the SM reentry and breakup, along with CSM entry and it then cuts to the film taken from Columbia itself. There are no shots of the parachute deployment, but there is film footage of the capsule at stable 2 and stable 1 before the divers attach the floatation collar (how the astronauts kept from upchucking inside the CSM I will never know as it was pitching and rolling quite a bit!). Footage follows of the astronauts being winched aboard the recovery copter and their entry into the mobile quarantine facility, as well as Richard Nixon's speech. You also get mission control film footage of the celebrations at the end and on site preparation of the lunar samples for delivery to the lunar lab for analysis.

If that isn't enough, there is also an extensive photo gallery at the end. Even on high speed with my fast clicking of the skip button on the remote, it still took me over an hour to sort through all the photos. Some of the shots are repetitive, but there is some nice stuff in there, most of which I have never seen before.

All things considered, this was probably the best $20.00 I have ever spent. I will likely still get the Apollo 11 4 disc set when it comes out, but this will tie me over nicely until then. I'm just glad it came out in time for the anniversary. WTG Mark and thanks to Barnes & Noble for putting fourth the resources to get it issued.

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Sent this email to Mark at Spacecraft Films:
I recently purchased the Barnes & Noble "First Lunar Landing" DVD and have a (possible) issue: When viewing the "Multi-Angle Launch Footage" section, I am able to view Angle 1 (from the service tower), but when this sequence ends, after the "Angle 1 Complete" graphic appears, the DVD returns to the "Departure" sub-menu. I cannot see how to access any other launch angles. Am I just thick (as in missing something obvious), or is this a possible fault?
Any cSers who purchased the DVD have this issue?

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Great job on the DVD! I had never seen the whole lunar landing before and this was the best way to see the whole thing for the first time. The launch sequence (multiple angle) with the surround sound was awesome. It scared the you-know-what out of our dog. Thanks again!

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Any cSers who purchased the DVD have this issue?
You have to use the angle button on your DVD remote. You switch between the angles as it runs, they are not one after the other.

Select the track and then press the angle button. You'll then go to angle 2. Press it again and you'll go to angle 3, etc. Sometimes the "angle" button is a movie projector or camera icon on the remote control.

Let me know if you have trouble figuring that out and I will try and help further.

I am traveling back to Columbus in the morning, so will be clearing the customer email tomorrow night and Friday. If you have sent anything to me since the weekend, you'll get an answer in that bunch.

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Thanks for posting, Mark. I read your post at work yesterday and tried to think whether my DVD remote had an "angle" button It did, and the feature works as advertised. Guess I never had cause to notice that button before!

Anyway, with that resolved, I'll second what other posters have said...Great job on this package. A fantastic value for US$20.

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