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Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-23-2006 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The original U.S. Space Camp will be celebrating its 25th anniversary in 2007. A major focus of the anniversary is an alumni reunion, with Space Camp inviting its past campers and trainees to return to Huntsville next summer.

That got me to thinking: How many Space Camp alumni do we have among our readership? When and where did you attend?

I'm a six-time alumnus: Space Camp in 1987 and 1988, Space Academy I in 1989 and 1990 and Space Academy II in 1991 and 1992.

I attended the Alabama camp for five summers and Florida just once in 1988.

FFrench
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posted 12-23-2006 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went through Space Academy (the pre-college Space Camp) in summer of 1989. Made friends with a girl from California and stayed in touch. Seven years later, we got married. As you can imagine, I'm glad I went there!

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...and this reminds me, for those of us who went to Huntsville - there is a nice way to memorialize this. In addition to the standard 'buy a brick' they offer to help restore the Saturn V and provide a building for it, there are special Space Camp insignia brick you can get, so your name is part of the facility. My wife and I donated for one.

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posted 12-23-2006 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carrie   Click Here to Email Carrie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I attended Adult Space Academy September 24-26, 2004 in Huntsville, Alabama (by that time the sole remaining U.S. Space Camp).

I'm not sure if I'll go back for any of the festivities next year - we'll see!

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posted 12-23-2006 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RMH   Click Here to Email RMH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I attended the US Space Camp in Huntsville in July 1983.

lewarren
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posted 12-24-2006 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lewarren   Click Here to Email lewarren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I attended three times in the late 1980's:
  • Space Academy Level I - Huntsville
  • Space Academy Level I - Hunstville
  • Space Academy Level II - Huntsville

KSCartist
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posted 12-26-2006 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never attended but I did help to arrange financing for 47 kids to go between 1986 and 1991. Does that count?

Robert and the rest of you alumni, enjoy the reunion.

Cliff Lentz
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posted 01-02-2007 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff Lentz   Click Here to Email Cliff Lentz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I attended Space Academy I in Huntsville twice, once in September 1989 and once in September 2000.

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posted 01-02-2007 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spaceflyer   Click Here to Email Spaceflyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I attended Adult Space Academy in September 1990 in Huntsville, Alabama.

sts205cdr
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posted 01-02-2007 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sts205cdr   Click Here to Email sts205cdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
October 1999 5-day Adult ASA
October 2000 2-day Adult SA
October 2003 5-day Adult ASA
October 2004 5-day Adult ASA
October 2006 5-day Adult ASA

And counting the days until...

October 2007 8-day Adult ASA

Rob Joyner
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posted 01-02-2007 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rob Joyner   Click Here to Email Rob Joyner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw a Headline News crawler today that said William Shatner will be in Huntsville as emcee in June 2007 for the first Hall of Fame ceremony for selected past participants & supporters.

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posted 01-02-2007 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard   Click Here to Email Richard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went in 1983 as well. I was then a couselor in 1989 and participated in the 20th anniversary by playing Buzz Aldrin in the reenactment.

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posted 01-03-2007 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never did. My parents liked to get rid of me for a week in the summer by sending me to an island in the middle of Puget Sound.

Not that it was a bad thing, I loved it!

Am I too old to go to Space Camp?

Cliff Lentz
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posted 01-03-2007 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff Lentz   Click Here to Email Cliff Lentz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the first sim on my first visit to Space camp in 1989, I was the Commander and my pilot was 83 years old. It's never too late!

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posted 01-08-2007 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sfurtaw   Click Here to Email sfurtaw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not quite Robert's six trips to Space Camp, but I am a four-timer, all in Alabama:

Space Camp - July 1985
Space Academy Level I - July 1987
Space Academy Level II - July 1989
Aviation Challenge - July 1990

I was invited to participate in the pilot (trial-run) week of Aviation Challenge in May 1990, but it unfortunately conflicted with school-related commitments.

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I went to camp from 1997 to 1999. I won the Right Stuff and current work at camp... I am looking forward to this summer and possible meeting you!

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posted 04-25-2007 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ISS Traj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't attended Space Camp as many times as others on this board, but I've had a lot of fun there as Counselor/Mission Director/Wing Commander as well. In fact, just this week, I ran into a former camper from my very first team when I was her camp counselor. She's at JSC now, too! Anyway, my record...
  • Aug 1987 - Space Academy Level I, Huntsville

  • Summer 1995 - Florida Space Camp Counselor for Space Camp and Parent/Child

  • Summer 1996 - Florida Space Camp Counselor for Space Camp and Parent/Child. Also was Mission Director for the simulators.

  • Spring Break 1997 - Florida Space Camp Wing Commander

  • 1997 - Present - JSC Flight Controller for the ISS

FFrench
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posted 08-29-2007 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've just noticed that Robert Pearlman was showcased in a recent Space Camp newsletter. It's quite an inspiring story.

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posted 08-29-2007 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh man, if I had known about this I would have gone to Huntsville as I had been looking for an excuse to go down since my Space Camp visit in 1985. Serves me right for not getting on collectSPACE until now.

In my case, I was part of class 3 (March, 1985, if I recall correctly)in 1985, as part of the early level 2 camp (eighth grade to high school age). The simulators were basically what you saw in the movie Space Camp as they hadn't been altered much when that was filmed in Huntsville (less then a year after I was there). The camp counsellors that were part of my class also hosted some of the teacher in space candidates only about two months after I was there. A cute bit sort of related to that was my camp visit was it occurred during STS-51D, most well known (at least behind Senator Garn flying on it) for the LEESAT that didn't fire its motor and the spacewalk to attach the fly swatter snag devices to try and trip the switch on the satellite. For the missions that year after my visit, the counsellors came up with a similar scenario for the campers to overcome. It was something different, compared to the space structure they were building while I was there.

I still have my class picture on the wall, my original Space Camp flightsuit (no, it DOES NOT fit me anymore) and a Level 2 Challenger patch along with my Space Camp certificate and study book. My original level 2 T-shirt might also be hiding in storage somewhere as well. I found some of the Polaroids I shot during my visit also. Those were and still are some good memories.

I recently pulled my Space Camp book out of storage as I've been using the early shuttle press guide from NASA in it to help with research for my current Shuttle book project. There is stuff in here I can't find on the NASA websites anymore (at least not with illustrations) and even the STS hardcovers by Dennis Jenkins don't cover some of the shuttle support facilities in quite the detail as this press kit does. So Space Camp is still teaching me things after all these years.

Congrats on the alumni mention Robert. Too bad we never attended together as it might have been cool to partner up for one of those missions.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-26-2007 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FFrench:
I've just noticed that Robert Pearlman was showcased in a recent Space Camp newsletter.
And I've just noticed that Francis French was showcased in the current Space Camp newsletter, along with wife, Erin. It's quite the romantic story, and a great lead-in to their 10th wedding anniversary!

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posted 09-27-2007 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kimmern123   Click Here to Email kimmern123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I attended International Space Camp this summer. It was really great visiting Huntsville and also meeting people from over 20 different countries. I commanded two "flights" on the shuttle and was CAPCOM in MCC. Really great fun! I also met Hoot Gibson and Story Musgrave, both were really great.

I also won the Right Stuff-award, an award given to one trainee each week that is given to the one the counselors and staff see as the definite future astronaut, scientist, teacher or engineer. That was really great!

And of course, I'm going back next year!

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posted 08-09-2008 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lb206   Click Here to Email lb206     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Space Camp is planning to do alumni camps for adults every year. Now so if people are interested in going back there will be more in the future. They had two in 2007 and one this year. They were having problems getting people this year but we had a close to full team. If we want the camps to continue for alumni we need to make sure they fill up.

I'm a 7 time alumni
Space Camp 1991
Space Academy Level 1 1993
Aviation Challenge Intermediate 1996
Advanced Space Academy 1998
Corporate Space Camp 2005
Adult Alumni Space Academy 2007
Adult Alumni Space Academy 2008

I was also an Aviation Challenge Mach 2 counselor in 2007

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"Mercury" Team
July 1st-7th, 1984
Space Camp, Huntsville AL

Displayed below, my crew patch designed by our own KSCartist, Tim Gagnon (albeit over 20 years after my flight).

Crew shirt worn proudly with Charlie Walker:

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posted 10-08-2008 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecraft guy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went twice, was named Shuttle Commander both times, won the Right Stuff Award for the 1986 visit.

Space Academy I - October 1986
Space Academy II - September 1988, during the STS-26R mission - the Return to Flight mission after Challenger.

I have to say that the first visit was phenomenal - the attitude from everyone was "we are all in this together, let's get back to flight." Everyone - the campers, the counselors, the guest speakers, the tour guides, even the guy who drove the van to the airport -everyone. And we had 24 hour a day access to just about everything - I remember sitting in the shuttle simulator at night for hours with both the couselors and my crew, getting them familiar with the Orbiter flight deck, then heading over to the Marriott for the Halloween night party. And there wasn't any blind sympathy for NASA being demonstrated by anyone - we had to watch a very comprehensive video of Challenger's final launch from many angles and with diagrams of where the SRB had been breached.

The second visit in 1988, the first words we heard from the person in charge of picking us up at the airport as soon as the van pulled away fron the curb was "Please don't bother us, stay out of the wardroom." It went downhill from there.

I had reunited with members of my crew from the first visit, and we found out that they had tremendously overbooked for those days and that they were overwhelmed and understaffed, and the staff that was there clearly informed us that they had more important things to do than deal with us. We were left to fend for ourselves. What little simulator time we had was interrupted by groups of kids who were led by counselors who would yell at us that we had the sim schedule wrong (we didn't), and the flight deck simulator we were in had been trashed by the group of kids who used it before us - all the joysticks on the flight deck and the throttle/speedbrake handles had been ripped out and left on the floor.

We finally had to have a talk with the head counselor on duty, a gentleman by the name of Richard Nixon, and tell him that we had enough and that situation needed to be addressed by an executive, ASAP, and if it meant calling someone in on the weekend, it had to be done. Richard asked for our understanding because of the coincidence of our stay and the RTF mission, and both our teams for that weekend reminded him that we had booked this weekend several months in advance, they knew that we were coming and regardless of the very important mission in progress and the media in attendance, we deserved their full undivided attention, fully equipped facilities in good repair and be given the program that they had promised.

We were told that we could leave and that we would get some money back. Most of us were from the West Coast and had airfares that could't be changed without a very high change fee, so going home wasn't an option.

So we stayed and made the best of it with whatever we could get access to. I wound up being the tour guide going through the museum for both our teams. Getting to play around for most of the night in a space museum was pretty much the lone highlight of the weekend. We bought an Orbiter model from the gift shop and had our own "Right Stuff award" ceremony.

We never did see anyone from the executive offices the whole time we were in Huntsville, and the letters that I wrote to Ed Buckbee and anyone else that was involved about how disappointing the weekend had been went unanswered.

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I went to Space Camp in 1989 and to Space Academy Level I in 1990. Naturally, these two weeks were a highlight of my youth and played a role in vectoring my to my current career.

The mid/late-1980's and into the 90's seemed to be a highwater mark for Space Camp. For me, what really sparked my interest was the movie Space Camp (of course), a cover story in Boy's Life magazine, and this little vignette on Space Camp that was featured on the old PBS kids' show 3-2-1 Contact (anyone remember this show? I used to love it!). Of course, I had a Space Camp program brochure and read it over and over and over. I must have brought that brochure with me everywhere I went.

However, the year before I went to Huntsville, my folks sent me to a pseudo-space camp at Camp Manison in Friendswood, TX (kind of near JSC). Camp Manison was a typical arts and crafts/outdoor youth camp that had definitely seen better days. I guess that they were trying to cash in on the space camp craze by making one of their own. They had one consultant who was moonlighting at Camp Manison while keeping his day job at JSC. I remember that he looked like astronaut Joe Allen and always wore one of the old blue nomex pre-Challenger flight jackets, which we all thought was pretty cool. We built rockets, practiced water rescue exercises in the camp pool, and toured JSC (this was in the days before the House of Mouse "imagineered" Space Center Houston, cheapening the JSC experience. Ah, the good old days, but that's a separate discussion item on collectSPACE). The highlight of the week was the shuttle simulator. They bussed us to a business park where this half-completed low-fidelity shuttle flight deck had been built. It resembled some of the low-fidelity sims at Huntsville (with diagrammed instruments and switches instead of the real thing), and we flew a "night mission" since the monitors weren't working. At the end of the week we were all inducted into the "Junior Astronaut Corps." I guess since they were ripping off USSRC's Space Camp, why not go ahead and rip off Young Astronauts also?

Has anyone else attended or even heard of this camp? Its neat to think that somewhere in Houston there may be a shuttle flight deck sim in someone's garage -- even if it is low-fidelity!

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I have often thought about attending Space Camp, but haven't -- yet. Has any one out there gone to the "Teacher" version of Space Camp? I was wondering if I should sign up for regular Adult Camp or Teacher Camp. Any thoughts?

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I went in the last week of July of 1983. I was in the group that wore brown visors. What a blast!

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I am finally going to treat myself to Space Camp in Huntsville. It may be difficult to get a whole week off from work in August/September, so I am considering the 3-day program.

For those who have attended, can you tell me what the difference is between the two programs?

Also, I have been searching the web, but I am hard pressed to find any trip reports/reviews of the adult space camp program. Can anyone steer me in the right direction on this? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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The main diffrence in the two camps other than the length is how in depth the program is. Keep in mind for a weekend camp you start in the early afternoon on friday and end around noon on Sunday. It is a lot to pack into that short a time period so out of necesity you will not get as in depth.

Also with the week long program you have more control over what positions you will have during shuttle missions as well as having longer and more missions than the weekend camp. For the weeklong you pick a track either pilot or Mission Specialist. This determines what positions you will have in the shuttle, station, and mission control or your shorter missions and for your long mission as well. You will have a chance to rotate through each location during 3 1 hour missions then pick a position for the long duration mission the length of which i'm not 100 % sure of anymore but its atleast 6 hours long. Weekend camp has no tracks so anyone could conceivably have any position but you may get a team where you have 6 people wanting the same spot so someone gets dissapointed.

Also with the mission soecialist track for weeklong if you qualify medicly you get to do SCUBA in the space camp UAT. Pilot track trainees go to aviation challenge to fly the flight sims though i have seen some ocassions where they alow pilots to do scuba too youd have to check to be sure. Scuba is not done on weekend programs.

With week long programs your lectures will be more in depth as well and it will not be nearly as rushed. I would recomend week long over weekend if you can swing the time off though weekend is a good intro to the camp if you cant.

If you have more specific questions and want to read abou others experiences or ask more questions visit Hab1.com its a website set up by a former camper turned counselor who last year also made it into the space camp hall of fame. The forum is frequented by many former and current campers and counselors lik myself who are always willing to talk about their experiences and answer questions. Its totaly free to register and you will find tons of inforation there.

You can look for me there under the Name Boomerang i'm a 7 time camper and have a single season as an Aviation Challenge Counselor in 07 under my belt as well.

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Thank you so much for the info. I really appreciate it.

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My son (he is 7) and I are going to attend space camp this summer. Right now we are trying to decide on which one to go to: space camp or aviation challenge.

Right now - he seems to be leaning toward wanting to go the aviation challenge route. Needless to say being a fighter jet pilot and shooting at bad guys is cool to him.

My question is: 1) which one is best for his age? 2) can anyone tell me what they do in each one of them and 3) what is the difference between the 3 day and 4 day program for the aviation challenge (I know they do the Mars Mission at Space Camp on the 4th day).

Thanks a lot!

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This Thursday, I am taking my oldest daughter down to Space Camp. We enrolled in the Parent/Child 3-day program. This will be my first time back to Huntsville since I attended in July, 1984. I'm very curious to see how much of the grounds have changed.

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posted 08-25-2011 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sts205cdr   Click Here to Email sts205cdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T-minus 10 days and counting until I begin my NINTH mission at Space Camp!

I'm already shakin' like a Saturn V first stage...

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I've never gone...yet. Would love to go to Starfleet Academy...

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We didn't have a lot of money when I was a teenager and I couldn't imagine my folks sending me off to something like that on my own even if we'd had the money (we always did things as a family). I know of Space Camp as a teenager, but going for me was as likely as becoming a real astronaut at that age.

But they have the adult camp now. Still, I'm looking 42 dead in the eye and a former Army officer. I've had my share of excitement in life. I'd think people looking at me going to this would laugh behind my back, much like the "fantasy camp" stuff you read about with sports and music. And I can't see my wife thinking it's a good idea for me to go fly off somewhere to go "play astronaut" somewhere. That said, I'm quite sure I'd totally LOVE the experience and deeply envy those of you who got the chance to go as kids.

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Everyone who knows me knows I go to Space Camp every year, and they don't laugh behind my back, they tease me to my face! Not much anymore, though. Mostly it's the envy you mention. Heck, I met my girlfriend because of her reaction. "You went to Space Camp?!?!" She had me right there...

Now, alas, it really is a fantasy camp, with the Shuttle being history. The bright side is that the new Orion-type sims will put you on the cutting edge of what's to come. That's very exciting to an old Shuttle jockey like me.

And now the Bad News: The adult Advanced Space Academy, the week-long session, has been canceled for next year. It was a shock to find out this year that we were the last of the line, but that's the way it goes. No one gets to be an astronaut for life.

I'm just very grateful for the time I did have at Camp. It was one of the most rewarding and FUN things I've ever done.

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My fifteen year old has been to Space Camp and two levels of the Aviation Challenge down in Huntsville, but now he really prefers the camps offered by the Kansas Cosmosphere. He's done three levels -- last summer they were down at the Johnson Space Center for a week where they got all kinds of access the public doesn't get. It was pretty amazing. Level IV takes them to Kennedy, and Level V, they go out to California and visit Edwards, and all kinds of assembly plants, including some visits with some of the private space people. He's ready for Level IV this year but we might have to choose between Level IV and Spacefest or the Apollo 16 reunion (if there is one) because this stuff is starting to cost real money!

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Has anyone here done the weekend adult camp? How old generally are the people who go, if you've been to it?

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I went to an adult weekend Space Academy in 2000, and it wasn't any different from the ASAs I've been to. 30s to 50s, with rare exceptions.

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Are there any personal websites up that talk about the adult version of the camp and showing any photos? I must admit the lightbulb came on over my head when it dawned on me that I have the money to do this and can't really see a reason not to, other than how tough it is to get time off at my job these days. Still, I'd like to know more because I'm not sure how you'd get much out of just a weekend...


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