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Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-15-2011 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Editor's note: This topic is a sidebar to the main Exhibiting NASA's retired shuttle orbiters thread, in order to keep discussion of these specific legislative efforts separate from the more generic debate over the shuttle museum assignments.

Congressman Jason Chaffetz release

Chaffetz Introduces Bipartisan Bill to Direct One of Four Orbiters to Houston

"Okay, Houston, We've Had a Problem Here" -- John L. "Jack" Swigert, Jr. (Apollo XIII)

Yesterday, Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) introduced HR 1536, the "Space Shuttle Retirement Act." The bill would establish sites in Texas, Florida, California, and Virginia (Smithsonian Museum) as the final homes of retiring NASA Space Shuttles. Original bipartisan cosponsors of the legislation include Representatives Bill Posey (R-FL), Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX), Ken Calvert (R-CA), Gene Green (D-TX), Sandy Adams (R-FL), Pete Olson (R-TX), Al Green (D-TX), Rich Nugent (R-FL), and Ted Poe (R-TX).

NASA was created by Congress in 1958. This federal agency remains under the purview of Congress. Congress has an obligation to determine the retirement location of NASA shuttles, as these American icons are owned by taxpayers.

"After hearing many of my colleagues in Congress cry out: 'Earth to NASA,' I am seeking to restore common sense and fairness to the Space Shuttle retirement home debate," said Congressman Chaffetz. "Instead of relying on political guidance systems, these decisions must be steered by history and logic. My legislation would designate the retirement home of the three Space Shuttles based on the location and history of the Shuttles' launches, landings, and mission support, the fourth based on the Smithsonian's role in preserving American artifacts."

The bill designates the homes of NASA's retiring Space Shuttles as follows:

  • Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas: Shuttle Endeavour

  • The Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center, Virginia: Shuttle Discovery

  • The California Science Center in Los Angeles, California: Shuttle Enterprise

  • The Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex, Florida: Shuttle Atlantis
On April 12, 2011, NASA announced the names of the four institutions where the retired space shuttle orbiters would be placed on permanent display. Despite the critical role that Texas has played in the space program, it was overlooked by NASA as a final home for one of the four orbiters. The decision to place a fourth orbiter in New York was widely panned. This bill corrects the Administration's omission.
(The text of H.R. 1536 has not yet been received from GPO, and as such is not yet available online.)

Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee release

Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee and Congressman Al Green Introduce Legislation to Override NASA Space Shuttle Orbiter Placement Decision

Legislation Would Move Orbiter To Houston!

Today, Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, a longtime advocate for NASA and former member of the House Science Committee, and Congressman Al Green, a senior member of the House Financial Services Committee, introduced legislation that would temporarily loan the Space Shuttle Discovery to the Space Center Houston for 15 years. Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee issued the following statement regarding her legislation:

"Both Houstonians and millions of Americans across the country were devastated this past week by the news that Space Center Houston was not selected to be a permanent home to one of the space shuttle orbiters. This legislation is in line with the official designation that allows the federal government to provide assistance to NASA centers that were drastically impacted by the diminished NASA mission. This legislation would temporarily set aside the decision to dispose of the Discovery shuttle and instruct Gen. Bolden and NASA to temporarily "loan" the Discovery shuttle to the appropriate location in Houston, Texas for a period of 15 years. This legislation fits squarely under that interpretation."

"The Smithsonian is America's museum. Over the years of their history, they have readily loaned major U.S. artifacts to the American people. What better community to host an orbiter than Houston, Texas. This is common sense legislation that no one should oppose. The next step is to set a meeting with General Bolden, representatives of the White House, and the leadership of the Smithsonian Museum to secure their agreement for this very sensible approach that will pay tribute to the families whose loved ones lost their lives in service to their Nation. We expect to have the support and advocacy of all of our colleagues. Several Members of Congress who do not live in Texas were shocked by the loss of the orbiter to Houston. Therefore, I am delighted to introduce this bi-partisan legislation that creates the right kind of solution. America is a great country. It is a fair country, and this is a solution that is both great and fair."

Congressman Al Green issued the following statement on the legislation:

"The goal of this bill is to reverse an unjust decision which would have an adverse economic impact on the city of Houston. The Johnson Space Center (JSC) and its committed workforce have been a key component of the space shuttle program since it started in the 1980's. Additionally, the successful monitoring of more than 100 missions from JSC and the fact that Houston, as well as its surrounding areas, have been the training grounds and home for our admired and beloved astronaut corps, are proof that we have provided America with an invaluable service that has made our country the world leader in space exploration. These facts should serve as enough merit for JSC to receive 'Discovery' but we must also keep in mind that, if one of the space shuttle orbiters were sent to JSC, NASA would actually be giving the American people a better set of options to view and learn about the shuttle fleet from a geographic standpoint. "

"Considering 'Enterprise' will be on display at the California Science Center; 'Atlantis' will be showcased at Florida's Kennedy Space Center, and 'Discovery' and 'Endeavour' are scheduled to be sent to the Smithsonian Museum in Washington (DC) and to New York's Intrepid Sea-Air-Space Museum, respectively, the west and the east coast regions get a shuttle, whereas the northeast region gets two. I think it would be much more beneficial for the American people that the Midwest region would receive one of these legendary space vehicles. Based on this rationale, JSC is the most logical and deserving destination."

Additionally, any costs associated with the relocation of the shuttle will come from the appropriations allocated to NASA for the purposes of transitioning the shuttles. This week, Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee and Congressman Al Green also wrote a letter to Administrator Bolden expressing their disappointment with his decision, and asking him to consider loaning the orbiter to Space Center Houston.

OV-105
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posted 04-15-2011 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OV-105   Click Here to Email OV-105     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess next week Ohio and Washington will put a bill out there and take an orbiter from someone then.

Ben
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posted 04-15-2011 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why did these lawmakers not protest having a competition to begin with if they feel this way. Or are they saying NASA should have fixed the outcome?

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 04-16-2011 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geez, if people are going to second guess the decision it's in my opinion better to make everybody unhappy and place all of them in the geographical center of the US. That would place it somewhere in South Dakota or Kansas.

Or maybe since there's debate as to where the center actually is, assign one orbiter to all the locations claiming to be the center of the US.

Fra Mauro
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posted 04-16-2011 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fra Mauro   Click Here to Email Fra Mauro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with the resolution. Orbiters should go to the two space centers because of the historical value and to the need to attract tourists with the down scaling of our manned space program.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-16-2011 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fra Mauro:
...the need to attract tourists with the down scaling of our manned space program.
To quote a colleague from Twitter:
Here's a good idea: Fight for where the shuttles are going instead of focusing on stemming the aerospace job losses.
These bills are a farce, not the least because Congress approved NASA's orbiter selection process before it began.

Murph
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posted 04-16-2011 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Murph   Click Here to Email Murph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is pandering. Grandstanding for the voters. Not only take the Enterprise, but shuffle the shuttles in a manner they deem preferable. Where were they during the process? Were they lobbying for a shuttle, or too busy or uninterested?

Their chance of success is zero.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 04-16-2011 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd have more - what's the word I'm looking for? faith? - in the bills and the legislators' intent if they wanted Enterprise to go to JSC.

But no, they want either Endeavour or Discovery. If they really are that upset over NY getting Enterprise, then why isn't that shuttle good enough for Houston?

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