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Robert Pearlman
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U.S. House of Representatives release
Armstrong, Cernan Stress Importance of Ambitious Human Spaceflight Program

The Committee on Science, Space, and Technology today held a hearing to examine the strategic goals and priorities of America's human space exploration program, including the importance of space access and demonstrated leadership among space-faring nations, and the inspirational role of human space exploration.

"NASA's human space exploration program is fundamental to the agency's mission and identity. And it is synonymous with the image of American leadership around the world," said Chairman Ralph Hall (R-TX). "For an agency with a budget that consumes less than one-half of one percent of federal spending - and human space exploration is about 20 percent of that - NASA is renowned at home and around the world as a quintessential American enterprise whose feats no one has been able to duplicate."

Discussing NASA's long-delayed announcement to proceed with developing a heavy-lift launch vehicle and crew capsule capable of taking astronauts to the Moon and other deep space destinations, Chairman Hall said, "If NASA doesn't move out quickly, more and more of our industrial base, skilled engineers and technicians, and hard-won capabilities are at risk of withering away." Hall concluded saying, "America needs leadership with a compelling vision, and the strength of commitment, or bright young engineers about to enter our workforce will likely look to disciplines other than aerospace if faced with such a protracted development cycle."

Testifying for the first time since the Space Shuttle Program has ended, Commander of Apollo 11 and the first man to walk on the Moon, Mr. Neil Armstrong, expressed concerns with the current direction of America's human space program. "America cannot maintain a leadership position without human access to space," Armstrong said. "After a half century in which Americans were being launched into Earth orbit and beyond, Americans find themselves uncertain of when they can reasonably expect our astronauts to travel to the International Space Station or other off the earth destinations in other than a foreign built and commanded spacecraft."

Mr. Armstrong insisted that America "must find ways of restoring hope and confidence to a confused and disconsolate work force." He said "The reality that there is no flight requirement for a NASA pilot-astronaut for the foreseeable future is obvious and painful to all who have, justifiably, taken great pride in NASA's wondrous space flight achievements during the past half century."

"Most importantly," Mr. Armstrong said, "public policy must be guided by the recognition that we live in a technology driven world where progress is rapid and unstoppable. Our choices are to lead, to try to keep up, or to get out of the way. A lead, however earnestly and expensively won, once lost, is nearly impossible to regain."

Captain Eugene A. Cernan USN (ret.), Commander of Apollo 17 and the last man to walk on the Moon, echoed similar concerns, particularly with the readiness of commercial companies to shoulder the load of launching American astronauts. "We are seeing the book closed on five decades of accomplishments as the world's leading space-faring nation," Cernan said. "We need an Administration that believes in and understands the importance of America's commitment to regaining its pre-emminence in space. An administration which will provide us with a leader who will once again be bold, just as JFK was, and challenge our people to do what history has now told us is possible."

"The space program has never been an entitlement," Captain Cernan continued, "it's an investment in the future - an investment in technology, jobs, international respect and geo-political leadership, and perhaps most importantly in the inspiration and education of our youth. Now is the time to be bold, innovative and wise in how we invest in the future of America. Now is the time to re-establish our nation's commitment to excellence. It is not about space - it's about the country."

Dr. Michael D. Griffin, Eminent Scholar and Professor of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering at University of Alabama in Huntsville, and former NASA Administrator during the initiation of the Commercial Orbital Transportation Services concept discussed his vision for the role of commercial launch companies. "A real space program may, and indeed should, offer a stable market to be addressed by commercial providers, but it cannot be dependent upon such providers for strategic capabilities," Dr. Griffin said. "A real space program recognizes that this nation has interests that rise above the fortunes of individual private contractors, and it protects those interests. The proper role of government is to reward winners, not to pick them, nor to step in as an investor in enterprises which cannot pass the tests that the capital markets impose."

Even though the Space Shuttle has been retired, the U.S. still has the responsibility of providing crew transportation to the International Space Station for both NASA and our international partners. Last Wednesday, September 14, 2011, the Administration and NASA announced plans to build the Space Launch System (SLS), which together with the Orion Multi-Purpose Crew Vehicle (MPCV), are intended to give NASA the capability to explore space beyond low-Earth orbit and provide access to the International Space Station if commercial entities or our international partners cannot do the job. Chairman Hall today said, "I am concerned that we need a viable backup system to ferry astronauts to and from the ISS, should commercial crew launch companies not be able to deliver as hoped. And just as importantly, the SLS and MPCV programs begin the work of ensuring that America has an ongoing long-term exploration program."

Robert Pearlman
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NASA statement
We respect the contributions Neil Armstrong and Gene Cernan have made in service to our country, and thank them for helping to pave the way for our exciting future forward.

Just as their ambitious missions captivated the nation's attention nearly a half-century ago, today's American space explorers are leading the way to even farther destinations that will one day allow the first astronauts to set foot on Mars.

It is a bold vision laid out by President Obama and Congress, in bi-partisan fashion, to pioneer new frontiers, push the bounds of exploration, and test the limits of innovation and technological development.

It is a plan that will ensure America's continued leadership in space with science missions that will rewrite textbooks, invests in innovative technologies that will put Americans to work in new jobs, and develops new space vehicles to explore farther into the universe than any nation has ever gone before.

Robert Pearlman
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Space Politics asks Did [the] sound and fury signify anything?
Their criticism of the state of NASA's human spaceflight program attracted some attention, but how significant is it?

Armstrong, for example, complained that the current situation, where NASA has to rely on Russia for transporting crews to and from the ISS, is "lamentably embarrassing and unacceptable", a soundbite that got a lot of play in reports of the hearing. While it may be embarrassing and unacceptable, it actually has its roots in the implementation of the prior nation human space exploration policy, the Vision for Space Exploration, which had inherent in its original goals (retiring the shuttle by 2010 and putting what was then called the Crew Exploration Vehicle into service in 2014) a gap as well.

Armstrong also said commercial proposals to continue flying the shuttle (apparently a reference to United Space Alliance's CCDev-2 proposal to continue shuttle flights at a low flight rate) "should be carefully evaluated prior to allowing them to be rendered 'not flightworthy' and their associated ground facilities to be destroyed." However, that proposal was evaluated, and rejected, by NASA, and for all practical purposes the point of no return for extending shuttle operations has long since passed.

And one wonders if officials at Boeing, one of the four companies with funded CCDev-2 awards (or, for that matter, ATK and ULA, which have unfunded CCDev-2 agreements) are chuckling over being lumped in with "entrepreneurial companies", a comment that seems primarily a jibe at SpaceX.

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Is anybody familiar with Robert Park? He says that anything that one wants to do in space can be done better and less expensively with robots. I am not saying that he is right. I was just wondering if anybody here knows of him.

Robert Pearlman
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Robert Park is one the media's go-to guys whenever they want to pit robotic space exploration versus manned missions.

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Like many Congressional hearings, this just gave an opposition group a platform to say their piece. Since the U.S. program already has a plan in, this was just an exercise in futility. If the gentlemen or Congresspersons thought that this was going to change things, I feel sorry for them. I get the sense that people feel that the Apollo astronauts' time has passed, and while they are entitled to their opinions, they aren't "with it" anymore.

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Even with the space launch system and multi-purpose crew vehicle official NASA programmes, they were still slighting commercial crew development.

Instead of testifying before a committee, perhaps they should go to a future debate with those vying for the Republican Party presidential nomination in 2012? Because nobody has suggested a definitive mission for NASA, post-ISS.

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posted 09-27-2011 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glint   Click Here to Email Glint     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by issman1:
Even with the space launch system and multi-purpose crew vehicle official NASA programmes, they were still slighting commercial crew development.

Administrator Griffin hit the nail on the head in quoting Sec. 20102(d)(5) of The National Aeronautics and Space Act. It gives as one of NASA's objectives

quote:
The preservation of the role of the United States as a leader in aeronautical and space science and technology and in the application thereof to the conduct of peaceful activities within and outside the atmosphere.

The act implies that through NASA the U.S. must maintain leadership in space without ceding it to anyone, including foreign or private entities. Government cannot impede private industry, but neither can NASA ignore through implicit abdication its obligation to lead.

So, they weren't slighting private industry in any way, shape, or form. Their message is that NASA and this administration is, in terms of NASA's founding document, falling down on the job these days in terms of the leadership requirement.

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quote:
Originally posted by Glint:
The act implies that through NASA the U.S. must maintain leadership in space without ceding it to anyone, including foreign or private entities.
I would suggest a closer read of the act, or at least that sentence (which contains the only use of the word "leader" in the act).
The preservation of the role of the United States as A leader...
Note, not the leader, "a" leader. No where does the act state or imply that there cannot be other leaders. In fact, the act enables international cooperation.

And to take this one step further, it doesn't even establish NASA or the government as being the leader, only the "aeronautical and space activities of the United States," such that if U.S. industry was a leader, then the act's requirements would be met.

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quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
And to take this one step further, it doesn't even establish NASA or the government as being the leader, only the "aeronautical and space activities of the United States," such that if U.S. industry was a leader, then the act's requirements would be met.

Nowhere in my post did I say, or mean to imply, NASA is "the leader" as if there could be no others. Actually, the possibility of shared leadership is what I meant to imply by saying "Government cannot impede private industry..." I could have chosen clearer words. NASA cannot impede leadership by other entities, but neither can it surrender its own leadership to private enterprise under its charter. NASA's requirements can be met only if it is a leader, which the testimony suggested it is not.

You quoted from Sec. 20102(d): "aeronautical and space activities of the United States." I believe "United States" is referring to the U.S. Government, not the country as a whole. Elsewhere the document refers to itself as the "policy of the United States" so clearly in this context it's talking strictly about the government's role and not the role of private industry.

In full context, it talks about NASA, an agency of the United States Government: "The aeronautical and space activities of the United States shall be conducted so as to contribute materially to one or more of the following objectives," one of which is "preservation of the role of the United States as a leader in aeronautical and space science and technology..."

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