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Delta7
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posted 09-18-2009 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now that there will be no more Shuttle flight assignments, only four to five ISS expedition slots per year for the next several years (and all of them for 2010 and 2011 filled), and Orion slots a distant prospect, will we see a sharp increase in astronaut retirements?

Henk Boshuijer
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posted 09-18-2009 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henk Boshuijer   Click Here to Email Henk Boshuijer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which astronauts are most likely to leave? Are there any rumours in the corridors of JSC?

tfrielin
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posted 09-19-2009 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tfrielin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm more interested in the current pool of shuttle astronauts: How many are currently in the ranks, but will not get a shuttle flight (barring an unfortunate accident with a currently assigned astronaut)?

I know a number of scientist-astronauts and those late-transferred MOL astronauts during Apollo stuck around for quite a long time to finally get their Shuttle flights, but given the uncertainty with Orion moving forward, I wonder if any of the current soon-to-be non-flyers will even try to stick around?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-19-2009 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the exception of the 2009 ascans (who will not be eligible for a spaceflight for another two years), all flight-qualified astronauts in the Office have flown or are assigned to a flight.

alanh_7
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posted 09-19-2009 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanh_7   Click Here to Email alanh_7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are the Soyuz/ISS assignments also filled?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-19-2009 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soyuz/ISS flights through 2011 are now assigned.

Delta7
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posted 09-19-2009 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I imagine some astronauts will wait and see what comes out of the Augustine Commission report and what the Obama administration decides to do vis-a-vis the future course of the program, and weigh their options accordingly. I wouldn't be surprised to see the office reduced by a third to a half in the next several years, unless Obama surprises everyone and announces funding for an ambitious space exploration program.

Delta7
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posted 09-20-2009 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think there will likely be some former astronauts currently in management positions retiring as the Shuttle program comes to an end, and some current members of the Astronaut Office moving into management. I would also expect to see a number of veteran shuttle commanders and pilots move on, since there won't be a whole lot for them to do until Orion starts gearing up.

Fra Mauro
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posted 09-20-2009 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fra Mauro   Click Here to Email Fra Mauro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There must be a few disappointed astronauts in Houston. I wonder if there is any resentment towards Steve Lindsay (flight #5 for the chief astronaut).

icarkie
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posted 09-21-2009 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for icarkie   Click Here to Email icarkie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder how many will hold out for a flight, as long as Don Lind did with his.

Delta7
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posted 09-21-2009 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I very much doubt (hope) that Don Lind's record will ever be broken.

The difference between now and when Apollo ended was back then, you still had a lot of astronauts who hadn't flown. It was worth it to them to stay on and get at least one flight, lest the whole experience be for naught.

Other than the current astronaut candidate class, there will be no one who hasn't flown at least one mission when STS-133 touches down. That means less incentive to hang around for years with the possibility of a future flight as the reason. Some will, some won't. Some will hang around for a while and work on a particular project or two before leaving, and there probably are a couple of John Young "lifers" among the current crop.

Jay Chladek
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posted 09-21-2009 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as the ones that stick around, they will probably include the Kelly brothers as I believe Mark has expressed interest in flying Orion (or was it Scott?). Peggy Whitson will probably also remain as a manager due to her science division ties and her ability to work with the Russians. This will be the start of the period when the ISS fully transitions from a construction project to an on-orbit research and science project.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-25-2009 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Los Angeles Times has a brief interview with Lindsey, during which he was asked about retention in the Astronaut Office:
The number of astronauts will be decreasing... Right now we have about 80 astronauts. In the out years it will be more like 60 or so.

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