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noroxine
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posted 06-17-2009 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for noroxine   Click Here to Email noroxine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a document with a Russian (?) cosmonaut listed with the following Cyrillic letter initials: WX.

I would like to know if there any here that know at who is attached to these 2 letters (seems to be at least Russian), normally period is around 1960.

Seems it is perhaps cosmonaut with name like Sha.... since the W = Sha?

Lasv3
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posted 06-18-2009 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lasv3   Click Here to Email Lasv3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are correct with "W" - it stands for latin "Sh". Then "X" stands for "Ch".

If we take your period given as around 1960 it should be someone from the first group of twenty.

We have there G. Shonin for W and E.Chrunov (in english spelling Khrunov) for X, but nobody who would pass as a one person for WX.

So either it is not one person or it is a different period (and some later group), it even may not be a cosmonaut or he (she) is not Russian. Maybe if you had some more details to narrow the field of options?

ilbasso
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posted 06-18-2009 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking (half-jokingly) Helen Sharman, but the initials would be reversed.

asdert
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posted 06-18-2009 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asdert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do Russians use their initials? They have a first name, a father's name and a family name. The initials of the three parts of Vladimir Mikhaylovich Komarov's name would be BMK (B in cyrillic for a latin V). In case that Russians need to give two initials, would they use BK, or probably BM? In some countries they use the initials in reverse order. I think this is the case in France, so Patrick Baudry would give his initials as BP.

So I am not sure that Sh stands for the first name and Ch for the family name.

It seems that none of the 103 flown Soviet or Russian cosmonauts has both Sh and Ch in his three names.

I also checked many unflown cosmonauts and didn't find a match.

To make things more complex: Russians love to use diminutive forms for first names. Aleksandr may be called Sasha or Shura, the latter starting with a Sh.

asdert
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posted 06-18-2009 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asdert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, the Russian Wikipedia has a list of astronauts/cosmonauts including many unflowns.

Lasv3
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posted 06-18-2009 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lasv3   Click Here to Email Lasv3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Helen Sharman - even when jokingly - is not a bad guess. I thought of ZHan lup CHretien (in russian spelling) where Zh in cyrilics looks like double W (it's a vertical mirror image of two W where the bottom one is upside down - well, this is the closest description I am able to give).

It can't be anybody from the soviet group 1, nor from the first five women, that means 1960 does not fit. It has to be later period. Without further details a difficult job.

SVaughan
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posted 07-03-2009 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SVaughan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if it could be for a cosmonaut whose surname began with "Shch"? Perhaps the double initial was used to differentiate him from the more common "Sh" surnames. Someone like Vasili Shcheglov who was selected in 1965.

asdert
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posted 07-10-2009 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asdert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shch is only one character in the cyrillic alphabet, see Vasili Dmitriyevich Shcheglov

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