posted 03-20-2005 01:02 PM               

My solution for you is simple -- if you have a problem with the prices -- then don't participate in the signing.

It requires enormous effort to organize these sorts of events. I for one will gladly pay these prices. I can only hope that Kim will soon be able to reach out to Bill Anders and Neil Armstrong to encourage them to participate.

On behalf of collectors who appreciate these men and women making themselves available -- I would please ask the naysayers to simply vote with your pocketbook and not buy. The rest of us will gladly participate and hope for more such opportunities in the future.

Thanks for listening

David

posted 03-20-2005 02:53 PM              

These forums are for discussion and opinions, and everyone is entitled to their opinion.

From MY point of view, i cannot and will not be able to afford John Young signed picture to add to MY collection. Thats MY choice, not yours. All i am doing is expressing MY opinion on the matter.

Good luck to anyone who can and will buy JY's items, and good luck to JY for making money and Novaspace for getting him to do so and making money.

posted 03-22-2005 04:56 PM               

Sorry, just trying to get some smiles going amidst all the bad Young talk.

posted 03-22-2005 06:05 PM              

I am so sorry if you dont like what other people think but these forums are for discussion, opinion and statement. I stated my thoughts, if you dont like to hear what people have to say, dont visit the forum pages.

Do you honestly think that the big news of JY signing would not attract opinions from every angle?. Everyone will have their own views,thoughts, conspiracy theories and tuppence worth on the subject.

I didnt criticice anyone within my posting, so what your problem anyway?. As far as being condescending,you may find its the reverse. KP emailed me the other day, and told me it was a good post, or should i in your view see that as being condescending?

posted 03-22-2005 06:12 PM              

OK; personally, I can think of many other things that I would rather spend $495.00 on, but if some folks feel that it's worth it and they want to pay that kind of money for John Young's autograph, then hey, more power to em. It's their right and privilege.

I spent nearly 5 years selling NASCAR collectibles in the heart of NASCAR country and there wasn't a day that went by without at least 1 person complaining about a price. Most of the time it was "I can buy that at Walmart cheaper", or "the guy over there has it cheaper". My response to that was "go buy it from Walmart or that other guy". Their opinion was their opinion and regardless of whether I thought they were right or wrong, I respected it.

Everyone has their own differences, agenda, and priorities. They what makes us such a diverse culture...but I don't think it's right to drag people across the table because their opinion differs from others.

As mentioned before, this is a message board forum and people are entitled to express their opinions..

Just my two cents!!!

[This message has been edited by HouseDadX4 (edited March 22, 2005).]

posted 03-22-2005 06:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonpaws:
the most towed plane in the world, wouldn't that be a good thing?

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Whereas the most Plain Toads in the world (Bufo nebulifer Girard) are in Northern Mexico...

posted 03-23-2005 05:30 AM               

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Originally posted by Rob Joyner:
[B Would it make any sense for me to whine about how much the Jaguar corporation makes selling their cars? [/B]

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Certainly wouldn't! They LOSE money and have done for years, mainly on the exchange rate as 50% of sales are to the US: http://www.wintonsworld.com/cars/carnews/carnews-2005/jag-sales-target.html

...but look at that little beauty they are going to produce. I just hope Ford has the guts to keep Jaguar and the even better Aston Martin going.

Off-topic, but you're clearly a man with taste Rob!

Paul Bramley

posted 03-24-2005 09:24 AM               

Like many, I was thrilled to hear about John Young's signing. Heaven knows I'd love to get his signatures on a few things.

But I suppose it comes down to what you think something is worth, be it a signature or a Jaguar (although I'd prefer a nicely sorted Lotus...).

I don't know Kim real well, but I responded to his invitation with 'I won't be able to afford the prices.' I suppose that's half-true. If I really REALLY wanted to, I could put the money together and get a Young signature. We all know that if you want something badly enough, you'll figure out a way to get it. But like some of the others, I've chosen not to pay $500 for his signature. I may kick myself in two years. Who knows?

That shouldn't diminish the enjoyment to be had by those who gladly pay the asking price. I'm thrilled that Young is signing! What I will ultimately get out of it is sharing the excitement with those collectors who indulged in this opportunity. I'm happy for them, for Novaspace. Well done, indeed!

For what it's worth, I had a very nice phone conversation with another cS member just last night about this topic. He is also not going to buy any John Youngs. But his comment, "John risked his butt and spent all this time for NASA and just recently retired," made sense. My friend went on to say, "Why not charge $500? John will be able to make some money off of his adventures and help out his family, or grandkids, or give something to charity."

Why not, indeed?

Thanks for listening,
Jay Gallentine

posted 03-25-2005 03:25 AM               

Its no different to most other hobbies, and life itself. You engage in the area of the subject that you can afford and that gives you pleasure. Its fruitless to whine that you cannot afford something, you may as well go to the Ferrari forums and complain about the price of their cars because you would like one.

John Young is charging a price that he feels is right and that is 100% HIS choice. If you don't like the price then that is your choice, and thank goodness we live in a society where there is choice.

Let's look at another aspect - value. Of course his signing will reduce the price of the previously premium signed Young items but say you have 11 moonwalkers and need Young to complete, well for well under $1000 you have added maybe $3000+ to the value of that item. A good "leap" has been going for over $2000 and now is a third of that, an uninscribed WSS Young has been impossible, now you can get one.

Young is the consumate professional who has served his country all his adult life, has risked his butt and has made historic achievements, He's never quit or sold out and now at his retirement he is looking to bolster his retirement pension with a signing. And why not? Why should he not charge whatever he likes?