Posts: 60 From: Boston,Ma. USA Registered: Jan 2010
posted 02-16-2012 04:32 PM
Our space auction is boldly going ahead.
Scheduled to launch this May 17, our Space and Aviation Autograph & Artifact Auction will feature astronaut signatures and aerospace artifacts – each fully authenticated and set for public sale.
Our catalog will feature stellar finds including an extremely rare Apollo lunar module (LM) water loop, an Apollo 11 flown flag signed by Neil Armstrong, a full set of flown Robbins medallions as well as plenty of flown hardware from the final frontier.
------------------ Bobby Livingston Vice President, Sales and Marketing, RR Auction
BLivingston Member
Posts: 60 From: Boston,Ma. USA Registered: Jan 2010
posted 02-21-2012 07:05 PM
A few more interesting lots for preview.
Here is an uncommon photo from the lunar surface inscribed by Armstrong "From Tranquility Base, Neil Armstrong"
Apollo 11 flown flag signed in black felt tip by Neil Armstrong, and bearing autopen signatures of Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins.
Flown Apollo 14 Robbins Medal accompanied by a 1996 letter of authenticity signed by Alan Shepard.
Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 05-03-2012 03:35 PM
RR Auction release
RRAuction Announces Historic 2012 Space and Aviation Autograph and Artifact Auction
RRAuction is pleased to announce its popular Space and Aviation Autograph and Artifact Auction, scheduled to take place from May 17th to May 23rd, 2012. This massive auction of over 650 premiere lots of historic space and aviation memorabilia and artifacts follows the company's successful and record breaking Space Artifact Auction from 2011. That sale realized record setting prices for Robbins medallions, flown space artifacts, and select, high-end autographed material from the Golden Age of aviation and space exploration.
"The global interest and appeal of classic space and aviation material continues to grow exponentially," said Bobby Livingston, Vice President, Sales & Marketing for RRAuction. "We are proud to be able to offer some of the finest and most interesting artifacts available --- with something for every collector, and across all price categories. This sale offers collectors a breadth and depth of material unavailable anywhere else on the market today, and it represents a rare chance to acquire truly unique, museum quality pieces."
The sale includes an amazing selection of early aviation items, including a stunning and exceedingly rare, handwritten letter by Wilbur Wright from 1910 to a student pilot discussing their "new machines" which "are much steadier in strong winds and easier to control than the older ones." Seldom seen and in-demand aviation artifacts from World War II are also represented, with one-of-a-kind vintage patches, autographs, and an amazing assemblage of original fighter pilot flight jackets, including jackets from such famed aviators as James W. Ayers, Robert Cardenas, and Frank K. "Pete" Everest.
Other early aviation items include a remarkable and historically significant autographed note by Charles Lindbergh pleading with reporters the morning after his son's kidnapping: "Due to the fact that our roads are blocked and communication made extremely difficult under present circumstances, I am asking that everyone leave our farm;" a huge, flown 32"x19.5" piece of glazed aircraft fabric, replete with a large Balkankreuz from one of the fighter aircraft of Manfred von Richthofen, the famous Red Baron himself; and a historic, 12"x8" American flag flown with the legendary Howard Hughes on his world-record breaking "Around the World Flight" in July of 1938.
While the selection of early aviation items is, indeed, impressive, some of the major highlights of this historic sale can be found within the hundreds of generously illustrated and accurately described and authenticated lots of rare space artifacts, autographs, and manuscripts. Said Livingston: "With the U.S. no longer capable of sending a human being into space, there is a huge, global interest in acquiring vintage flown and training material from the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo space programs - arguable the golden age of U.S. manned space flight."
Of particular note and interest are U.S. Naval Academy items directly from the Alan Shepard estate. Original items from Shepard, the first American into space, and a moonwalker and Commander on Apollo 14, are extremely rare and hard to come-by, especially with such impeccable provenance and from so early in his career. Items from the estate include Shepard's United States Naval Academy Battalion Pass Book, signed a total of 38 times by Shepard; a large assortment of personal gear and clothing issued to and worn by Shepard while at the Naval Academy; a massive collection of approximately 52 letters and a telegrams sent to Shepard by female "love interests;" and Shepard's personally-owned and worn Navy hat and jacket.
"Of course, space flown artifacts - whether actually used during the mission or part of an astronauts Personal Preference Kit, or PPK -- are the rarest and mostly highly prized of vintage-era artifacts," said Livingston. This auction presents a generous number of moon flown flags, patches, and Robbins medallions across multiple missions - including a Robbins medallion from each of the fabled manned Apollo missions.
Some representative highlights from the hundreds of vintage space artifact lots include:
A flown, 100+ page complete pilot's log book from the Gemini 5 mission, with extensive in-flight writing and mission commentary from Gemini 5 pilot Pete Conrad;
A 6"x4" American flag flown on the historic Apollo 11 mission, and attached to an official NASA certificate with an authentic Neil Armstrong signature;
A flown Apollo 11 Robbins medallion from the former collection of Apollo 12 moonwalker Alan Bean, as well as an extremely rare Apollo 12 "Wives-pin" Robbins medallion with diamond stud and pin-back.
A lunar surface flown Apollo 15 Lunar Rover commemorative license plate that was carried by mission commander Dave Scott for over 17 miles across the lunar surface;
An incredible, large flown lunar module stowage bag from the Apollo 15 mission stained with lunar dust from the Hadley-Apennine region of the moon;
A lunar surface flown and used circular star chart from the Apollo 16 mission to the Descarte Highlands; and
A rare and complete Apollo 17 flown tool kit, believed to be the last complete tool set in existence and available for private collectors!
There are also a host of rare and vintage training used hardware and documentation, including a scarce Block II Command Module Rotational Hand Controller; an absolutely one-of-a-kind Apollo Lunar Module water loop designed to go from space suit to the console in the Lunar Module; and an amazing, 46 page complete Apollo 13 Command Service Module Data Systems training manual, signed and certified by Fred Haise, the Apollo 13 lunar module pilot.
Additionally, this auction features a shop-tested "modular servicing tool" (aka - "screwdriver") used during training for the STS-41C Solar Max repair mission. The importance of this device and shuttle mission cannot be understated, as no one in human history had retrieved an orbiting satellite, repaired it, and redeployed it in the same mission. This training tool was integral in making that mission possible.
Collectors of original contractor models will not be disappointed, either. Among many of the contractor rocket and satellite models, this auction will present an original, museum built
BLivingston Member
Posts: 60 From: Boston,Ma. USA Registered: Jan 2010
posted 05-03-2012 03:37 PM
A full preview of the third RR Auction Space and Aviation sale is now online. The six day auction goes live on May 17th and ends on May 23rd.
Video highlights of some of the artifacts:
The RR Auction print catalog is being mailed out from New Hampshire tomorrow and we are very proud to be offering some incredible artifacts and autographs. If you would like a print catalog, please register with Stacey and let her know.
If you have any questions about the RR Auction sale, please contact me directly.
Rick Mulheirn Member
Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
posted 05-03-2012 04:55 PM
Some terrific items on offer and great to see Larry McGlynn looking so well.
rjurek349 Member
Posts: 1190 From: Northwest Indiana Registered: Jan 2002
posted 05-03-2012 05:22 PM
Impressive video, Bobby! And a great job by Larry. This is going to be one amazing auction.
freshspot unregistered
posted 05-04-2012 03:37 AM
Wow. RR Auction has really come through with this one. I'm a hardware collector and there are some amazing items. I'll have to tell my daughter that I can't fund her sophomore year in college. Well, maybe not.
And good for them for the quality of the descriptions and images and the video that Bobby and Larry made. These sorts of things bring new people into the hobby which over time is a good thing.
Posts: 427 From: Pampa, TX, US Registered: May 2011
posted 05-09-2012 05:01 PM
Some of the minimums seem a bit extraneous (in some cases, extremely extraneous like $200+20% for a $2.50 bottle of no-rinse hair conditioner with 2 velcoins attached), but I love the selection, especially as a Shuttle hardware collector. Now, if only I had more money in my bank account. There's 2 items in the Shuttle category that I'm particularly hopeful about.
Rick Mulheirn Member
Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
posted 05-09-2012 05:10 PM
Some very nice items in this auction. I'm off to buy a lottery ticket...!!
Spacehardware Member
Posts: 125 From: Durley Registered: Jan 2008
posted 05-14-2012 01:00 PM
Do I understand this 30 minute rule correctly, in that every time someone places a bid the 30 minute clock resets? Surely this could go on forever. Or seven days, at least. Does anyone have experience of this? Does it work?? I do like the immediacy and thrill of the old system.
Spaceguy5 Member
Posts: 427 From: Pampa, TX, US Registered: May 2011
posted 05-14-2012 03:58 PM
As far as I understand, it could go on forever, although it likely wouldn't because for one thing, no one wants to wait that long. And for another, each new increment has to be at least 10% of the total, so surely someone would run out of money they're willing to spend. The GSA auctions have a similar system (only without the increment rule) and I remember having one item drawn out an extra two hours or so because someone was placing their new bids near the end of the 30 minute window.
SkyMan1958 Member
Posts: 867 From: CA. Registered: Jan 2011
posted 05-14-2012 05:15 PM
I actually like this feature. Basically it allows you to keep lots open. In a standard auction you start at lot #1 and go to lot #X (let's say X=250). If you are most interested in lot 238 (and it's fairly expensive) you've got to let lots 1-237 more or less go by (even if there are several lots you are quite interested in) and take your shot at 238. If you manage to get lot 238 for much less than you expected, then you've missed your chance at those lots that came previous to 238.
On the other hand, using RR's system, you can have open a wide variety of lots that you are interested in, and winnow your way down to the ones you are most interested in (or have enough money for), as the prices escalate on the lots you have bid on.
isaacada1 Member
Posts: 47 From: Greater Seattle, WA USA Registered: Mar 2011
posted 05-17-2012 12:31 AM
Cable news network NECN has a video segment about the upcoming air and space auction this month.
When is junk more than junk? When it's been to outer space and back.
The space and aviation auction at RR Auction in Amherst, New Hampshire actually spans the history of manned flight.
"We can tell the entire story of aviation from a small airplane flying 25 feet at Kitty Hawk to landing on the moon, incredible achievement," says Bobby Livingston of RR Auction.
rjurek349 Member
Posts: 1190 From: Northwest Indiana Registered: Jan 2002
posted 05-23-2012 09:34 PM
WOW! What an amazing auction, and prices realized. The Robbins medallions are on fire. A big kudos to Bobby and everyone at RR for an amazing auction, and congrats to consignors and buyers alike. I picked up a few nice items myself.
stsmithva Member
Posts: 1933 From: Fairfax, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
posted 05-23-2012 10:05 PM
I had thought I might have a chance at two items, but other bidders also realized how cool they were: 208, the Command Module safety lock; and 309, the Buzz Aldrin tapes. They both sold for thousands of dollars. Item 498, the Apollo 17 tool kit, was at only around $2,000 for the first few days of the auction, but I knew that wouldn't last: it went for over $90,000 (incl. buyer's premium.)
Michael1976 Member
Posts: 106 From: Chandler, AZ 85249 Registered: Nov 2011
posted 05-23-2012 10:12 PM
Great auction. I picked up an absolute steal, the Apollo 11 Giclee signed by both Aldrin and Collins. An amazing piece at an absolute steal of a price.
davidcwagner Member
Posts: 799 From: Albuquerque, New Mexico Registered: Jan 2003
posted 05-24-2012 12:13 AM
Why so much for the Apollo 14 and Apollo 17 Robbins medallions? I thought the Apollo 8 and Apollo 12 medallions would have sold for more than the Apollo 14 or Apollo 17.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 05-24-2012 03:18 AM
I believe the Apollo 14 Robbins may be the only example of a Shepard-certified Robbins that has been offered at public sale.
Spaceguy5 Member
Posts: 427 From: Pampa, TX, US Registered: May 2011
posted 05-24-2012 03:47 AM
Some of these prices made me cringe. Like, I find it hard to believe that Paul Weitz's G-1 jacket went for so much considering how much cheaper milspec G-1 jackets can be purchased for. It was even more popular than his CWU-27/P flight suit with a Mach 25 patch, which would have sold for only $360 (inc. premium) had I not tried bidding. I don't understand why the lot of 3 bottles of hair conditioner sold for $220 (inc. premium) considering that they're identical to off-the-shelf products.
Still, I feel like I got a really good deal on the seven payload bay insulation blankets. I've been wanting an intact payload bay insulation blanket (the one I currently have, while very large, was cut to shreds by the previous owner) but I never thought I'd get 7. I can't wait to get those paid for and in the mail.
benfairfax Member
Posts: 199 From: NSW Australia Registered: Jan 2011
posted 05-24-2012 05:28 AM
I'm a bit perplexed as to why Lot 341 Apollo 11 crew three individual signed lithos went for $12K? That is crazy, but great for the seller. interestingly the three sold individually for $6600.
Other signed lithos went cheap or did not make reserve. Not sure if it is good having items that are not popular to the general public (i.e. Mattingly, Young, White lithos) put in with hardware. Seems the only high price fetching ones are the well known astronauts.
MadSci Member
Posts: 226 From: Maryland, USA Registered: Oct 2008
posted 05-24-2012 11:32 AM
Well I wasn't too greedy. All I wanted was the Safety Lock, the tool kit, Slayton's "Turtle" membership card and the LM Leg Strut.
Pity everyone else did too! Ah well, in another life I will have no kids and lots of money to spend!
Did get the Apollo "strut" that 'may be form the lunar module decent stage.' Kind of suspicious that it may actually be a CM part, looking forward to finding out for sure what exactly it is!
SkyMan1958 Member
Posts: 867 From: CA. Registered: Jan 2011
posted 05-25-2012 12:17 AM
Is there something I'm missing (aside from brain cells)? Why did lot 185, an unflown Gemini 5 patch, go for a bid of $1,200? Is this some rare precursor patch or something?
spaced out Member
Posts: 3110 From: Paris, France Registered: Aug 2003
posted 05-25-2012 01:47 AM
That patch is the 'Crew Souvenir' version, and as such is extremely rare. The rarest patches (in unflown form) do tend to hit this kind of price level from time to time, although so far they haven't hit the same kind of price levels as some unflown Robbins medallions often do.
crl848 Member
Posts: 10 From: London, UK Registered: Nov 2010
posted 05-25-2012 05:22 AM
RR kindly sorted out some fat finger bidding problems I had, which was good of them.
It's worth pointing out that it is easy (if you are me) to get confused between the max bid button and the add a bid button. The software will allow you to put on any bid you like above the current one, regardless of the current max bid. Also you can apparently bid against yourself if you're not careful.
h00ktern Member
Posts: 11 From: FL, USA Registered: Jan 2011
posted 05-25-2012 10:42 AM
I ran into the same problem, and similarly, RR made the correction upon notice.
I was the high bidder and wanted to set my max bid during the 30 Minute Rule. I thought I upped my bid, but to my dismay, I bid against myself, took it to the next bid increment, AND restarted the 30 minute timer... !
I immediately sent an email to Stacy Jordan, and shortly after the close of the auction, she replied she would look into it. The following day, she sent me an amended invoice, removing the unintended bid increment.
She advised me the correct way to set a max bid was to do an incremental bid (still against myself apparently) and use the drop-down box to select Max Bid (incremental in 20% bids) No mention of the 30 Minute clock reset.
After re-reading the auction rules, I still see an apparent conflict regarding restarting the clock, and no mention of the 20% increment on a Max Bid. I did find one small paragraph mentioning the step of first doing an incremental bid and selecting Max Bid.
I may be dumb, but I haven't had any issues on other online auction sites. I think RR should review their bidding instructions for clarity, however, in the end, they certainly did the right thing.
After reading through their site for the fifth time, I would certainly appreciate any info you guys (gals) would direct my way to help me understand where I went wrong in my thinking.
That little snag aside (which was corrected by RR), I think it was a great auction - I added three missing items to my collection.
crl848 Member
Posts: 10 From: London, UK Registered: Nov 2010
posted 05-25-2012 11:17 AM
I think that, when first putting on a max bid, you need to bid the next increment (which automatically appears in the window). Then if you want to raise the max bid later you don't need to put a bid in the window, just change the drop down menu max bid level. If you do it the wrong way you bid one increment against yourself (if the high bidder already) and reset the clock. Anyone confirm?
I noticed a problem when I reset the clock doing it the wrong way, but it was rectified afterwards.
I don't think the software should allow you to bid against yourself, but anyway with care you can avoid it!
gliderpilotuk Member
Posts: 3398 From: London, UK Registered: Feb 2002
posted 05-25-2012 02:30 PM
"Upping" your max bid is a bit clumsy and open to bidding against yourself. Even though it is explained on the website it is usually only after you have made the mistake that you refer back to the explanation!
That aside, this was an excellent auction and efficiently administered as ever. As a seller I was very happy with the results and luckily, as a buyer, I was tempted, but didn't spend all the proceeds!
SkyMan1958 Member
Posts: 867 From: CA. Registered: Jan 2011
posted 05-26-2012 02:08 AM
Interesting to see in the "Auction Results" that even though lot 498, the Apollo 17 tool kit, hit, with 18% commission, $89,632, it did not sell. I wonder what the reserve was on that puppy?
benfairfax Member
Posts: 199 From: NSW Australia Registered: Jan 2011
posted 05-26-2012 10:35 PM
Please excuse my ignorance, but how can you tell if they sell or not?
crl848 Member
Posts: 10 From: London, UK Registered: Nov 2010
posted 05-27-2012 03:18 AM
Not listed in the results.
SpaceAholic Member
Posts: 4437 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
posted 05-27-2012 07:48 AM
Exclusion could be for reasons other then not meeting reserve (i.e contested title, something not kosher with the high bid) ...wouldn't be the first time.
SkyMan1958 Member
Posts: 867 From: CA. Registered: Jan 2011
posted 05-27-2012 02:11 PM
quote:Originally posted by benfairfax: Please excuse my ignorance, but how can you tell if they sell or not?
RR produces an auction results PDF. Generally it is accessible via their website, sometimes you have to contact them and get them to email it to you.