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Glint
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posted 08-09-2021 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glint   Click Here to Email Glint     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From The Daily Beast...
A space capsule with a hole in it. A rocket that failed 31 miles over Earth's surface. An orbital lab with misfiring thrusters.

That's the short list of the most dramatic mishaps involving the International Space Station in the last three years. The missteps have one thing in common: They all involve Russian spacecraft traveling to, or already attached to, the station — or station modules that recently arrived from Earth.

Guess they forgot to mention the Progress M-34 crash and the fire — oh, but that was only aboard Mir.

I am wondering what people here think about the latest mishap aboard the International Space Station when the thrusters from the newly attached Russian Nauka lab module ignited due to a reported software glitch causing the entire complex to rotate before the problem was resolved and attitude corrections made.

The article quotes someone from the US War College saying that Roscosmos has "a worse record than any other major space power. China landed a rover on Mars on its first try, while every Russian attempt to reach Mars since 1990 has failed."

Is the criticism justified or is it simply hyperbole?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-09-2021 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To fairly judge the criticism, you would have to weigh it against all the times that Russia's spacecraft have worked as planned or when they have been responsible for diverting a possible problem rather than causing one over the past three years (the time frame set by the article).

During that time, Russia has successfully docked more spacecraft than any other country. Further, the thrusters on Russia's Zvezda service module and Progress spacecraft have been solely responsible for moving the space station out of the way of possible debris impacts — and counteracting the errant thrusters firings by Nauka.

In addition, the U.S. operating segment of the space station has not been without its share of problems, including the loss of life support systems, electrical shutdowns and leaks in the station's critical coolant system (though some of those may extend further back than three years).

I think there are valid reasons for NASA to raise concerns about Roscosmos (and sometimes vice versa) but I don't think it is as simple as looking at a track record to figure out if there is a problem. I do think, if nothing else, there are (further) lessons to be learned from operating the International Space Station that can be applied to future commercial outposts and deep space projects, such as the Gateway.

SkyMan1958
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Last I heard, the recent Soyuz flight abort worked the way it was supposed to. I realize that it's well over three years in the past, but that is not something you could say about the shuttle, either coming to or going from, space.

Further, how much has the U.S. taxpayer forked over for the Orion, SLS and Starliner projects with, so far, nothing to show for it in the decade plus that these projects have been ongoing.

Robert Pearlman
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I'm not sure pending projects are a valid criticism for either country — or at least relevant to this topic. Russia has been developing its own exploration capsule (Orel) and a new class of launch vehicles (Angara) at a much slower pace than was originally planned.

As for the Soyuz MS-10 abort, a case could equally be made that the fact an abort occurred is a reason for concern (much like balancing Nauka's errant thruster firings with the fact that it was Russia's other thrusters that were responsible for bringing the space station back under control).

The primary problem the Nauka issue may have exposed — or drawn new light to — is the lack of ability the U.S. and Russia have to intercede in the other program's activities if and when something goes wrong. They don't act as full partners in this sense, but one looking over the shoulder of the other, which is an issue for any collaboration, let alone a project the size, scope and complexity of the International Space Station.

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