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Fra Mauro
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posted 09-02-2009 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fra Mauro   Click Here to Email Fra Mauro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any firm ideas why Grumman lost out on the shuttle contract? I've read that one factor was Nixon's desire to win California in 1972.

kr4mula
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posted 09-02-2009 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kr4mula   Click Here to Email kr4mula     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, firm ideas? Well, some engineers have commented that they felt the Apollo experience with the major contractors colored the award in one way or another. Supposedly Grumman's other problems with the F-14, for example, were also an issue. I think Tom Kelly had a lot to say about that in his book, especially since Grumman originated the stage-and-a-half concept that the shuttle uses today. He was surprised and disappointed that they lost out, naturally.

E2M Lem Man
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posted 09-02-2009 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2M Lem Man   Click Here to Email E2M Lem Man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I kind of doubt that explanation. California was Nixon's home state and it was doubtful that he would have lost that in 1972.

After Apollo 1, the company went along and worked easily with NASA adapting to whatever the agency needed or wanted.

Rockwell was liked more about that time, and that is one of the reasons Grumman became a team member and assembled the wings and other subsystems.

moorouge
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posted 09-04-2009 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Surely the one and half stage concept was developed by Convair with the Atlas rocket?

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