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Delta7
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posted 02-24-2009 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With his and his STS-123 crewmates' release from the STS-400 contigency crew, I'll be willing to bet Box Johnson will be named as CDR of STS-132 or 133.

RMH
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posted 02-24-2009 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RMH   Click Here to Email RMH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to Johnson (during a recent presentation) he is hopeful to be named to one of the last three flights as a pilot but sees a commander role as highly unlikely.

Delta7
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posted 02-24-2009 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seems kind of unusual, as most of his classmates were upgraded to CDR after their 1st mission (Ferguson, Archambault, Zamka, Poindexter; presumably Ham has or will be as well).

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posted 02-24-2009 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for webhamster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The reason may well be that all unflown astronauts will have flown by STS-131 thus there will be no rookies left to fill a PLT seat so there's no sense in upgrading someone if there's nobody to fill the right seat.

Simple math dictates that some people (like Johnson, Ham, Boe) will probably have to fly twice in the PLT seat as the program finishes out. It also probably increases the odds of Frick, Melroy, or Mark Kelly getting the final commands on 132, 133, and maybe 134.

Delta7
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posted 02-24-2009 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True. But I figured Johnson and Ham were shoe-ins for CDR, with the 3rd slot going to Melroy, M. Kelly, Ferguson or "Ray Jay" Johnson. And the PLT slots going to Boe, Antonelli and Hurley, them being lower on the "Totem Pole" due to the fact they're from a later selection group.

Does this mean Ham won't be commanding either? If he does, why him and not Johnson? Since Johnson flew before Ham, and that seems to dictate the sequence of promotion as evidenced by the other members of the class of '98, it would seem odd.

I suppose NASA could be of the mind that it has enough trained and experienced CDRs that it doesn't need to train any more.

BTW, I read an interview with Frick where he said he didn't plan on flying the Shuttle again. In fact, NASA's Astronaut Biographies page currently lists him as "Management" with the Constellation Program.

webhamster
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posted 02-24-2009 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for webhamster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I learned long ago not to even guess at the black arts of crew selection, but for Antonelli and Hurley to get those slots they'd have to jump right back into full-time training right after their flights. Certainly not impossible and it's been done before, but with an end date in May, if any flights slip...

Given this, I don't think we can expect a crew announcement for 132 until at least May. 133, probably then not until August/September. The window gets narrower and narrower. That may be the genesis "Box" Johnson's uncertainty. I think though, whether left or right seat that he's likely a lock for one of those seats on 132.

I think that the last 2 (not counting 134 right now) will likely have one of these variations:

?/Johnson
?/Ham
Johnson/Antonelli
Johnson/Johnson (!)
Ham/Johnson

irish guy
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posted 02-25-2009 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for irish guy   Click Here to Email irish guy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would love to hear of Box Johnson getting one more flight, one of the nicest guys I ever met in the Astronaut Office... have to ask this, what has become of Jim "Vegas" Kelly has he a hope of getting a flight before the end of the Shuttle era?

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posted 02-25-2009 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I heard a while back that Vegas is already working on Constellation. But we'll see if he gets his shuttle command. The program ain't over until it's over.

Tim

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posted 02-25-2009 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro-nut   Click Here to Email astro-nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just my two cents worth:

STS-132 Melroy / (Box) Johnson
STS-133 (Ray J) Johnson / Ham
STS-134 J. Kelly / Bresnik

Thank you.

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