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Topic: Terra: White out in snowy UK (from space)
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Paul Littler
Member Posts: 70
From: Brentwood, Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 01-07-2010 06:03 PM
   
Everyone in the UK must know we are having one of the hardest winters for years. It has been snowing. Everywhere.Take a look (for a larger version click here, but it may take a while to load. If it does try again later).  |
AstronautBrian
Member Posts: 287
From: Louisiana
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 01-07-2010 06:26 PM
It looks like a scene from "The Day After Tomorrow." |
Delta7
Member Posts: 1505
From: Bluffton IN USA
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 01-07-2010 06:44 PM
I was thinking the same thing. |
AstroAutos
Member Posts: 803
From: Co. Monaghan, Republic of Ireland
Registered: Mar 2009
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posted 01-07-2010 07:18 PM
It's the very same over here in Ireland at the minute... that's quite a magnificent satellite image I have to say.  |
cspg
Member Posts: 6210
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006
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posted 01-08-2010 12:12 AM
On the "bright" side, you get to see the Sun. We don't (at least over here). And it's snowing, again. I hate snow. |
moorouge
Member Posts: 2454
From: U.K.
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 01-08-2010 02:54 AM
Dare I say it? Yes - why not.  COOL!!!!!! |
Philip
Member Posts: 5952
From: Brussels, Belgium
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 01-08-2010 03:51 AM
Seeing this satellite image, I wonder how the winter affects the boiling pools in Yellowstone park in Wyoming - USA. It probably doesn't I guess.  |
lm5eagle
Member Posts: 429
From:
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted 01-08-2010 04:40 AM
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Originally posted by Philip:
Seeing this satellite image, I wonder how the winter affects the boiling pools in Yellowstone park
Having been there when the snow was thick on the ground, it doesn't. The rate of flow from the boiling pools quickly negates any temperature drop from falling snow. |
David Bryant
Member Posts: 986
From: Norfolk UK
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 01-08-2010 04:53 AM
The old Global Warming is certainly kicking in! |
gliderpilotuk
Member Posts: 3398
From: London, UK
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 01-08-2010 06:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by David Bryant:
The old Global Warming is certainly kicking in!
Nothing to do with that, whether you believe in it or not.The jet stream has shifted south hundreds of miles and is now positioned over North Africa. The "warm" westerlies that usually keep away the snow from us are instead giving the Mediterranean an unusually mild winter. As a result of the pressure shift we are now getting unseasonal north-easterlies. |
cspg
Member Posts: 6210
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006
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posted 01-08-2010 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by AstronautBrian:
It looks like a scene from "The Day After Tomorrow."
Nope. Ireland is still green! |
cspg
Member Posts: 6210
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006
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posted 01-08-2010 08:44 AM
quote:
Originally posted by David Bryant:
The old Global Warming is certainly kicking in!
People tend to have forgotten that it is NORMAL to have snow in winter... |
Lunar rock nut
Member Posts: 911
From: Oklahoma city, Oklahoma U.S.A.
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 01-08-2010 10:13 AM
Well here in Oklahoma City our temps over the last 30 days have averaged twenty degrees below normal. 7.5 degrees F outside of my house as I type. There is still a lot of snow around from three weeks ago. Tonight's low temp expected to be 1 deg. F. Anyway here is an interesting link to NOAA's National Ice and Snow cover maps. |
tegwilym
Member Posts: 2331
From: Sturgeon Bay, WI
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 01-08-2010 12:57 PM
It's strange to read about how cold Florida has been too. Every time I have been there it's been pretty darn hot - even in January. Has it ever snowed in Orlando / KSC area? |
Delta7
Member Posts: 1505
From: Bluffton IN USA
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 01-08-2010 01:11 PM
I was in Jensen Beach FL over the New Year holiday, and with the wind chill it was pretty darn cold. I went for a walk on the beach early afternoon and my ear lobes got cold. In southern Florida! Very abnormal. |
Lunar rock nut
Member Posts: 911
From: Oklahoma city, Oklahoma U.S.A.
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 01-08-2010 01:24 PM
To answer that question look at Saturday's forecast at the KSC area: NWS NASA Shuttle landing facility |
moorouge
Member Posts: 2454
From: U.K.
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 01-08-2010 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by tegwilym:
It's strange to read about how cold Florida has been too.
Weren't freezing temperatures and ice the problem with 51L? |
Playalinda
Member Posts: 152
From: Peoria, AZ, USA
Registered: Oct 2009
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posted 01-08-2010 07:11 PM
Don't know what you guys talking about. Snow? Here in greater Phoenix sunshine... High around 70 degrees. "Normal" temperature is 66 degrees. By the way Florida, even the south, can get freezing temperatures. The orange groves take a hit on a regular basis and the farmer use water, yes they spray water, to protect the trees. The water freezes and protects the oranges, lemons or whatever they try to protect. Hope they don't lose too much. We lost Challenger because of the icy conditions. Remember the o-rings were stiff and that caused the booster leakage and thereafter breakup of the space shuttle. People, even journalists, mostly say explosion which is not true. The shuttle broke up because of it's high speed and the atmospheric pressure. |
cspg
Member Posts: 6210
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006
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posted 01-08-2010 11:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Playalinda:
The shuttle broke up because of it's high speed and the atmospheric pressure.
Where did you get that information? From: Rogers Commission: Chapter 4: Findings - A combustion gas leak through the right Solid Rocket Motor aft field joint initiated at or shortly after ignition eventually weakened and/or penetrated the External Tank initiating vehicle structural breakup and loss of the Space Shuttle Challenger during STS Mission 51-L. |
Playalinda
Member Posts: 152
From: Peoria, AZ, USA
Registered: Oct 2009
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posted 01-09-2010 12:50 AM
The logic tells me that the shuttle is designed to climb into orbit on a certain angle of attack. When Challenger's booster separated from the lower attachment and the top of the booster slammed into the near top area of the ET the space shuttle was no longer in a control mode. That means the shuttle hit the air nearly broadside and no structure can hold loads like this. Even the wings were separated from the shuttle main body. It's amazing that one wing itself was almost intact after separation. At least photos have shown one of the wings typical shape intact and I believe it only shattered when hitting the Atlantic ocean. The falling wing and the angle it hit makes the ocean pretty hard. Just imagine driving a car 250 miles an hour and you open a window and hold your arm out. I would bet that the arm breaks from being exposed to the windflow. The shuttle Columbia shares the same fate as Challenger as it went into an uncontrolled mode and the air pressure ripped it apart, no explosion here either. It's almost like both vehicles hit two walls the first one in the air and the second one on impact on Earth. Sorry to be getting off topic. By the way I really like the picture taken from space of the UK white out condition. |
moorouge
Member Posts: 2454
From: U.K.
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 01-09-2010 02:26 AM
Jet streams? Carbon footprints? The more elderly UK cS's will know that the British climate hasn't been the same since Bert Foord stopped doing the forecasts for the BBC. |
Lunar rock nut
Member Posts: 911
From: Oklahoma city, Oklahoma U.S.A.
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 01-10-2010 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by cspg:
Where did you get that information?
Apparently from Wikipedia. |
cspg
Member Posts: 6210
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006
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posted 01-10-2010 08:47 AM
If so, look at the video of the explosion. |
Lunar rock nut
Member Posts: 911
From: Oklahoma city, Oklahoma U.S.A.
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 01-10-2010 10:17 AM
I have a beta tape I recorded when it happened. I was surprised to read the no explosion paragraph on the Wikipedia page. That paragraph is half way down the page. ...according to the NASA team that analyzed imagery after the accident, there was only "localized combustion" of propellant. Instead, the visible cloud was primarily composed of vapor and gases resulting from the release of the shuttle's liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen propellant... Had there been a true explosion, the entire shuttle would have been instantly destroyed, killing the crew at that moment. |
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