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Topic: Astronauts getting wild
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spaceflori
Member Posts: 1499
From: Germany
Registered: May 2000
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posted 08-28-2007 10:15 AM
   
I know the background is not really funny, but something to enjoy though :
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fx012tHJ6JA My personal favourite is Mike Collins going for the camera !  Florian |
mjanovec
Member Posts: 3811
From: Midwest, USA
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 08-28-2007 10:31 AM
Sibrel's video is meant to show the astronauts in a bad light and cast more doubt on whether we actually went to the moon or not. In the end, his video actually makes the astronauts look more respectable while Sibrel comes off looking like the whiny little liar (since most of the interviews were obtained under false pretenses). Bean and Cernan, in particular show more patience with this guy that they probably should have. I was surprised at how many actually put their hand on his Bible and swore they went to the moon. (Sibrel doesn't even mention those instances, does he?) The best line is when Bean finally says, "Take your stuff and get the f*** out." I was finally happy to see the full confrontation video with Buzz, because it's so much more clear that Sibrel is doing everything he could to create a stir. Buzz tries to get away from Bart, but is cut off at every turn. Sibrel evens turns to his camera men and tells them to keep shooting, as even his own camera crew is clearly uncomfortable with the situation. I'm glad I could actually see the full video without giving any money to Sibrel for it. |
East-Frisian
Member Posts: 586
From: Germany
Registered: Apr 2005
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posted 08-28-2007 12:04 PM
Seeing this I can really understand, that some astronauts resigned from signing, public appearances and something like that. The only bad thing on the video was, that Buzz was already a little bit to old (or still too kind), otherwise it could have been a very good k.o. in round 2 and be sure, I would that have enjoyed it. The Eastfrisian |
Cliff Lentz
Member Posts: 655
From: Philadelphia, PA USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 08-28-2007 02:59 PM
I've seen most of the moonwalkers shown in the video in hotel lobbies at one time or another. No wonder that they're always looking over their shoulder.Is it me? I've looked at the SMOKING GUN video more than a dozen times and three more times today and I still don't see what he's trying to prove. This is just Paparazzi nonsense and assault journalism. Unfortunately I've seen this type of thing on the "E" channel where a reporter instigates the sitation then gets in front of the subject to cause a physical collision. If Sibrel says he knows we didn't go to the moon, maybe we should consider sending him on the first flight back!
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star61
Member Posts: 294
From: Bristol UK
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted 08-29-2007 07:04 AM
I love Armstrongs response, "probably a fake bible"......typically cool ,thoughtful and still polite. He really is a classy gentleman. Phil |
Lunar rock nut
Member Posts: 911
From: Oklahoma city, Oklahoma U.S.A.
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 08-29-2007 07:18 AM
Junk journalism from a Geraldo wannabe trying to make a Mike Moore documentary. He deserved that punch and much more IMO. I have to agree with Florian The M. Coliins nose print on the lens is awesome.Terry |
jimsz
Member Posts: 616
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Registered: Aug 2006
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posted 08-29-2007 08:17 AM
The guy has the opportunity to meet all these Astronauts who made history and the only result is he looks like a jerk. Maybe he can attack those who think the world is round next. |
Saturn V
Member Posts: 176
From: Golden, Colorado, USA
Registered: Nov 2006
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posted 08-29-2007 08:38 AM
I usually don't have much to say on these posts but this one gets to me.
I realize that the MW's are people but to me they are National Treasures that should be treated with respect. If someone was to vandalize the Washington Monument, they would be arrested.
Can't the Federal Government do something about this guy? Put a little pressure on him or something to get him off the backs of the astronauts? Ugh.
Richard
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leslie
Member Posts: 231
From: Surrey, England
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 08-29-2007 11:56 AM
Come on everybody! Relax!The most important point is that Buzz made a really solid connection! Wow Dr Aldrin! I'm impressed! Now if JY, NA, AW et al had done the same, this loser would soon have found a more productive way to waste his time! ------------------
Leslie Cantwell |
mjanovec
Member Posts: 3811
From: Midwest, USA
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 08-29-2007 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by Saturn V:
Can't the Federal Government do something about this guy? Put a little pressure on him or something to get him off the backs of the astronauts? Ugh.
Richard
This all happened a few years back. To my knowledge, Sibrel is no longer harassing the astronauts in this manner. Plus they all know who is and steer clear of him. Unfortunately if the government did something to put pressure on him, Sibrel would only say that is further evidence that the moon landings were faked. And a lot of gullible people would believe him. |
Rick Mulheirn
Member Posts: 4167
From: England
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 08-29-2007 04:28 PM
Saturn V......."to me they are National Treasures that should be treated with respect" I could agree with you more! Regards, Rick |
Blackarrow
Member Posts: 3118
From: Belfast, United Kingdom
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 08-29-2007 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by Rick Mulheirn:
I could agree with you more!
Have I missed something? Don't you mean you COULDN'T agree more? I couldn't, and I'm not even American. |
art540
Member Posts: 432
From: Orange, California USA
Registered: Sep 2006
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posted 08-29-2007 05:35 PM
Rick might not be an American either... |
Ken Havekotte
Member Posts: 2912
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 08-29-2007 05:36 PM
Just curious; If this guy believes that astronauts have orbited around the Earth, why does he have a hard time comprehending that astronauts can fire one of their upper stage rocket engines to boost them out of orbit on a trajectory to the moon? Along the same lines, he probably believes that unmanned space probes like Ranger, Lunar Orbiter, Surveyor and others have indeed flew by, orbited, and soft-landed on the lunar surface. So, why not, believe that our Apollo astronauts did in fact achieve lunar orbit and touchdown? If the technology, engineering, and science is there for human orbital space travel and unmanned lunar achievements, why not go the next step? Why would he have a hard time understanding something like this if you already accept human space travel and lunar flight? Ot perhaps he doesn't. |
art540
Member Posts: 432
From: Orange, California USA
Registered: Sep 2006
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posted 08-29-2007 06:16 PM
We always talk NASA coverup about the lunar landings but can't other countries and their tracking systems verify the landings and stays on the surface for these disbelievers? |
kyra
Member Posts: 583
From: Louisville CO US
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 08-29-2007 09:37 PM
The Van Allen belt issue is a realistic curiosity. Even Mike Collins had trepidation about it. I recall a line from "Carrying the Fire" in which he talks about the radiation on Gemini 10's high orbit in which he states (paraphrased) "If I ever get cataracts I will blame Gemini 10". What kind of dosimetry research was conducted passing through the belts ? We obviously know it is safe with the right precautions and we have 9 living MW, 70-plus to prove it, with no cataracts that I know of.The flashing on the retna from cosmic rays is experienced by many space flyers in LEO, and is not surprising. Al Bean is so cool. He is charming even when he is really angry! My salute to these guys for enduring these hoaxer fools! |
RichieB16
Member Posts: 552
From: Oregon
Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 08-29-2007 10:31 PM
I personally like this video a lot more:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eX7UKH3_xuA&mode=related&search= |
Lunar rock nut
Member Posts: 911
From: Oklahoma city, Oklahoma U.S.A.
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 08-30-2007 12:11 AM
I like that video also. Too bad someone hasn't cornered Sibrel and shoved a camera in his face then harassed him about uncovering the truth about his doctored footage.Terry |
spaceman
Member Posts: 1104
From: Walsall, West Midlands, UK
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 08-30-2007 04:03 PM
Hi,
I've seen a couple of the clips before, cool in the face of adversity, thats why these guys were picked to go the moon. My hat off to Al Bean and all.
Nick
Spaceman.
P.S A classic punch thrown here by our own former deputy prime minister. I never had a lot of time for him but agreed with his action here. http://youtube.com/watch?v=VRQDnGTcc4A
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Rick Mulheirn
Member Posts: 4167
From: England
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 08-30-2007 05:42 PM
Blackarrow....."Don't you mean you COULDN'T agree more?"........ I couldn't agree with you more! Regards, Rick |
BobbyA
Member Posts: 147
From: Northern Virginia
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 08-30-2007 06:37 PM
I would like to ask Sibrel if Apollo 10 flew to the moon. Did 9 orbit the earth with the LEM? Did 8 orbit the moon? Did Gemini 6 and 7 rendevous? Did Ed White do an EVA? Did John Young have a real roast beef sandwich on Gemini 3, or was it tofu? When did this "hoax" begin, and when did it end? |
mdmyer
Member Posts: 900
From: Humboldt KS USA
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 08-30-2007 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by BobbyA:
Did John Young have a real roast beef sandwich on Gemini 3 When did this "hoax" begin, and when did it end?
Roast beef would have been a hoax. It was corn beef. Mike Myer |
BobbyA
Member Posts: 147
From: Northern Virginia
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 08-30-2007 07:20 PM
You got me. I always get caught up in the conspiracies. |
Max Q
Member Posts: 399
From: Whyalla South Australia
Registered: Mar 2007
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posted 08-31-2007 04:15 AM
Who does this alleged Journalist think he is to so blatantly disrespect some of the greatest men of the 20th century.Edited by Max Q |
spaceflori
Member Posts: 1499
From: Germany
Registered: May 2000
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posted 08-31-2007 04:54 AM
Whether it's Kennedy or anything else - my personal opinion is that these conspiracy folks, journalists or whatever they call themselves are only seeking one thing :
CASH !Let's face it - you can make a s***load of money by promoting such stupid theories ! Unfortunately that's how our world works.... Florian ------------------
Flown artifacts, autographs and more !
www.spaceflori.com |
ApolloAlex
Member Posts: 390
From: Yeovil, England
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 08-31-2007 05:12 AM
Mmmmmmmm........roast beef.------------------
"Why dont you fix your little problem and light this Candle?" |
Hawkman
Member Posts: 400
From: Union, New Jersey
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 08-31-2007 09:02 AM
Sibrel is just doing what I call "playing to the stupid".Like so many of the recent 'conspiracy' theories concerning 9/11, Sibrel hopes to capture those folks with little or no respect for themselves who want to feel 'important' or to look 'big' in front their friends by looking 'smarter' than they are. Like those 9/11 'facts', when Sibrel's 'evidence' is exposed in light of the true context of the statements made, he, and those who believe him, look like a bunch of dunces. Like the Roswell gang, it's all about money. |
rjb1elec
Member Posts: 212
From: Merseyside, England
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 08-31-2007 09:22 AM
I Think Sibrel has a hard job understanding that the world is round,let alone that men have walked upon the moon.(Sorry Robert) |
ApolloAlex
Member Posts: 390
From: Yeovil, England
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 08-31-2007 05:04 PM
Hi all,I had the daft idea if someone had Sibrels address and we could bombard him with autograph requests with reprints of lunar landing pics,i know its silly as it be a waste of our time and money.  But it comes down to the simple fact that people like to debunk the good work of others because they will never achieve much in there own life so they have to make there name in another way,sad but true. Cheers,
Alex. ------------------
"Why dont you fix your little problem and light this Candle?" |
mjanovec
Member Posts: 3811
From: Midwest, USA
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 08-31-2007 07:23 PM
The thing about Sibrel is that I don't even necessarily think HE believes his own theories. He strikes me as the kind of guy who would rather perpetuate a conspiracy for the sake of making money than for having an actual belief that the moon landings were faked. I think he is slimy enough that he would knowingly provoke the astronauts because he knows he will get a strong reaction from them...and even moreso when he knows he is accusing them of something that is false. Just look at his second encounter with Aldrin...he comes off WAY more aggressive that the first encounter. He knows that if he pushes Buzz hard enough, he'll get a reaction on camera that will be unforgettable...which is exactly what happens. It's like the many people who roam Dealey Plaza in Dallas, selling JFK conspiracy papers and books. I don't get the impression that these people necessarily believe in a conspiracy, but they know where they can find people hungry enough to want to believe in conspiracy. |
Lou Chinal
Member Posts: 1306
From: Staten Island, NY
Registered: Jun 2007
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posted 09-02-2007 10:28 AM
Remind me never to get into a boxing ring with Buzz Aldrin
-Lou |
Steve Procter
Member Posts: 1031
From: Leeds, Yorkshire, UK
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 09-02-2007 12:36 PM
Lou,As I said at the time... 'Buzz Aldrin - Floats like an LMP, stings like a bee' Steve |
cddfspace
Member Posts: 609
From: Morris County, NJ, USA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 09-02-2007 05:39 PM
After looking at the original link (and the several that followed) I was actually very proud (once again) of the way our astronauts handled themselves. I believe Sibrel is the one getting wild! Dennis
CDDFSPACE
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Novaspace
Member Posts: 434
From: Tucson, AZ USA
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 09-02-2007 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by Lunar rock nut:
n The M. Coliins nose print on the lens is awesome.Terry
Mike said he was trying to back the cameraman up, so that he fell backwards over the curb behind him. No luck. Kim |
FFrench
Member Posts: 3161
From: San Diego
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 09-02-2007 07:09 PM
I attended the event where the John Young footage was filmed, though didn't see this incident (I think Jim Busby may have). Young was scheduled to do more at the event, but after such an annoying incident decided not to participate any more. So Sibrel, in addition to his many factual deficiencies, has disrupted and curtailed the kind of meeting-astronaut events many here enjoy. Another reason he's not likely to find many fans here. |
Blackarrow
Member Posts: 3118
From: Belfast, United Kingdom
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 09-03-2007 07:11 PM
If Bart Sibrel lived in the sort of country which would mount such an elaborate hoax, he would have "mysteriously" disappeared years ago, probably in the vicinity of a new freeway under construction. The supreme irony is that his continuing freedom to make a complete nuisance of himself is all the proof any self-respecting conspiracy-nut needs to realise that Sibrel talks a load of absolute s**t. |
Lunar rock nut
Member Posts: 911
From: Oklahoma city, Oklahoma U.S.A.
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 09-04-2007 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by Novaspace:
Mike said he was trying to back the cameraman up, so that he fell backwards over the curb behind him. No luck.Kim
At least he left another indelible mark in history on the video from this encounter! Terry |
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