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Russ Still
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posted 11-19-2004 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ Still   Click Here to Email Russ Still     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a meeting with Jim Kennedy, Kennedy Space Center director, yesterday for a story I'm working on. I landed at the Shuttle Landing Facility (SLF), something that is pretty astonishing.

I think most of the pics are self explanatory. Obviously, that's the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) in the top left of the first one. The runway is 15,000 feet long and is 300 feet wide. It is huge. I flew the whole thing looking thru the viewfinder of a camcorder. I'll have video of the approach and landing on my website soon.

The guy I'm talking to is Jim Kennedy, KSC director in his office in the NASA HQ building, right next to the O&C Building (where the astronauts do their walkout). The T-38 was getting ready to leave for Houston. Didn't recognize the astronaut by sight.

Oh, and yes, I did have the power all the way off, with full flaps and nose pointing straight down.

Russ Still
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posted 11-19-2004 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ Still   Click Here to Email Russ Still     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Russ Still
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posted 11-19-2004 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ Still   Click Here to Email Russ Still     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

randy
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posted 11-19-2004 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randy   Click Here to Email randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool pics! Thanks for sharing them with the rest of us!

Ben
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posted 11-19-2004 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great pics, that's awesome!

How did you manage to get permission to land on the SLF?!

tedc
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posted 11-19-2004 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tedc   Click Here to Email tedc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for sharing. Always great to see pictures of the KSC.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 11-20-2004 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't remember what show this was, but it had the STS-62 crew, and I remember that after landing, they painted a mark on the runway with '62' next to it; don't know if that was the nose gear on the main landing gear (presumably its the nose gear if they're measuring how far the shuttle rolled out after landing.)

Am I imagining this or do those hash marks exist?

Scott
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posted 11-20-2004 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Russ. Great pics.

Rob Joyner
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posted 11-20-2004 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rob Joyner   Click Here to Email Rob Joyner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great photos! I'll bet that was quite an experience!

I've only had the pleasure of seeing the runway from ground level during the NASA Up Close Tour at KSC. Thanks, Russ!

Russ Still
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posted 11-20-2004 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ Still   Click Here to Email Russ Still     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad y'all enjoyed them. It was a lot of fun. Another fun part was when I called the Peachtree-DeKalb tower for takeoff from Atlanta. "Peachtree tower. 42742 instruments to Kennedy Space Center Shuttle Landing Facility." You know I just had to say the whole thing.

Gilbert
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posted 11-22-2004 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Russ, cool photos.

Philip
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posted 11-22-2004 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is the Boeing 747/Orbiter mate-demate device on that location? I guess they only have one of those structures in KSC (the other at Edwards AFB)?

thump
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posted 11-22-2004 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thump   Click Here to Email thump     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hart Sastrowardoyo:
...they painted a mark on the runway with '62' next to it
They do paint marks on the runway for where the gear stops on the runway, not sure which gear they use though...

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 11-22-2004 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad to know I wasn't imagining it! of course, I'm sure there's some ribbing on who made the shortest landing and who made the longest landing....

Russ Still
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posted 11-22-2004 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ Still   Click Here to Email Russ Still     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Philip:
Is the Boeing 747/Orbiter mate-demate device on that location?
Yes, Philip, the mate/demate facility is about 100 yards to the left from where we parked. The nose of the Cessna is pointing at it. You get a quick look in the video as I was taxiing up.

Rizz
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posted 11-22-2004 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rizz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great shots Russ!

The image of the shadow of your 'spacecraft' is a classic! Did you have to deploy your chute?

november25
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posted 11-22-2004 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for november25   Click Here to Email november25     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Russ, just looked at your post — great pics there. Is it a 152 or 172 type plane?

I had flown over KSC on several occasions doing my cross-country for my PPL License. Love the cessna, but now I fly a PA28 Warrior. It's a wonder that the military ATC lot didn't stop you flying, since when I did it the guys in the tower told me I had to get special permission. Well done friend. I am impressed.

The Cessna is a joy to fly, but a little cramped at times regarding movement?

Will have to try what you did next time I hire a plane in Florida. Or will I get stopped?

Russ Still
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posted 11-23-2004 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ Still   Click Here to Email Russ Still     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Rizz and Brenda. It's a 182 and is plenty big inside. You can even squeeze between the seats into the back.

And yes, I suspect you would get stopped.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 11-23-2004 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That must have been a neat entry in your logbook — what's the "airport code"? KSC? SLF?

Russ Still
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posted 11-23-2004 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ Still   Click Here to Email Russ Still     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The airport identifier should be KSC, but those unimaginative bureaucrats called it X68. Go figure.

You might be relieved to hear that some of the "intersections" around the facility have names like "moon," "earth," "stars," "comet" and "astro." I can hear the controller now: "Report inbound from Moon."

Mike Dixon
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posted 11-24-2004 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Dixon   Click Here to Email Mike Dixon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Russ, there's a very valid reason for that port allocation code .... I've e-mailed you offline with some detail.

tegwilym
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posted 11-24-2004 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is really cool Russ. I'd love to get that strip in my pilot logbook!

Ken Havekotte
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posted 12-04-2004 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Russ, congratulations on your amazing feat of flying into KSC's Shuttle Landing Facility (SLF)!

The first time a plane ever landed on the SLF was on May 21, 1976 when then-KSC Director Lee Scherer, while piloting a twin Beechcraft (NASA-6), made two "touch-and-go" landings on the 3-mile strip to test approach and landing techniques.

The second plane to do so was piloted by KSC Deputy Director, Miles "Mike" Ross, also at the controls of a twin Beechcraft. Scherer was KSC's second Center Director while Ross was the Spaceport's first Deputy Center Director.

From those first two landings in 1976, Russ, it might be interesting to know how many other private pilots like yourself have had the unusual opportunity to land a non-government and/or non-military aircraft on the orbiter landing facility. Maybe not too many, huh (should I check it out if interested)?

The SLF at NASA's Kennedy Space Center was also dedicated an an outstanding civil engineering achievement by the American Society of Engineers in March 1978. Nice going, Russ!

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