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Fra Mauro
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posted 09-05-2011 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fra Mauro   Click Here to Email Fra Mauro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Should the position of NASA Administrator be elevated to a Cabinet level position? I think this was done with Veterans Affairs in 1989.

Blackarrow
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posted 09-05-2011 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Far be it from me as a foreigner to tell Americans how to organize their government, but... yes, absolutely.

Cozmosis22
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posted 09-05-2011 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One vote for "No thanks."

We already have too many bureaucrats.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-05-2011 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why should NASA merit special treatment over the other science-related agencies (e.g. NOAA, the National Institute of Health, National Academies of Science)? Or would you propose — as others have in the past — that NASA be folded into a new Department of Science as part of joining the Cabinet?

KSCartist
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posted 09-06-2011 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lord knows we do NOT need another layer of bureaucracy.

Think of the (well-intentioned) creation of the Department of Homeland Security. The goal was to improve communication between government agencies that protect and defend. The goal has still not been met.

If a "Department of Science" were to be created, NASA would be lost in another level of government and be fighting just as hard for funding.

We need less layers and more efficiency.

garymilgrom
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posted 09-06-2011 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think Fra Mauro is talking about adding more layers of bureaucracy. I think they are saying that if the NASA Administrator was a Cabinet-level position it might have more visibility with the President. I think that's a good idea.

As for why NASA might merit special treatment, I believe the space program has the ability to inspire and energize tomorrow's leaders in a way other science programs do not, because I believe our destiny lies off the planet. Of course, I **am** biased as a big supporter of space.

Fra Mauro
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posted 09-06-2011 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fra Mauro   Click Here to Email Fra Mauro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I proposed the idea for exactly those reasons -- prestige and showing that space exploration is a highly valued national goal. Making it a Cabinet agency doesn't really add to the bureaucracy. Going back to the V.A. example. it was a sign of a commitment to our veterans. I'm not a fan of a Department of Science, to vague and too many agencies would get lost there.

Lou Chinal
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posted 09-06-2011 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can see the reasons for doing it AND not doing it.

Added prestige, more visibility with the President. But I would also be apprehensive about NASA being lost in a 'Department of Science' having to fight for a buck.

NASA does deserve special treatment.

Cozmosis22
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posted 09-06-2011 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Once upon a time the country's space ventures were somewhat directed and promoted by the National Aeronautics and Space Council which operated out of the Office of the Vice President. Under JFK/LBJ the space program enjoyed a high priority. It has gone downhill ever since; and am afraid that having a space figurehead (with it's usual attendant bureaucracy) at White House Cabinet Meetings would be of little use at this time. Your desire for "prestige and showing that space exploration is a highly valued national goal" is a noble one nonetheless.

Jay Chladek
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posted 09-06-2011 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As long as NASA's current charter has it in budget fights with welfare programs for funds, putting the NASA Administrator into a cabinet level position isn't really going to do anything anyway.

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