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Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-14-2001 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had tickets to have two items appraised today as part of the New York filming of the Antiques Roadshow.

For anyone who has not seen this entertaining PBS show, the premise is quite simple: collectors and treasure-seekers gather in droves to have 70-some odd experts appraise their finds. If your piece is deemed notable out of the 13,000 items reviewed (6,500 tickets distributed, each accompanying two items) then they film the appraisal for later airing as part of their one hour, weekly show.

Anyway, my ticket was for 9:30 entry, so I arrived about an hour ahead of time at the Jacob Javitts Convention Center in Manhattan. The line for the 8:30 ticket holders was already several hundred deep and I was directed to the end. Though the crowds were reminiscent of waiting for rides at Disney World, the time passed was rather enjoyable as those near each shared stories about what they brought to have appraised.

I had brought four items, waiting until the last minute to decide which two would ultimately be appraised. They were:

  1. an autographed "Who's Who In Space: The First 25 Years" book
  2. the commander's "Day 8, Meal C" package from Apollo 13
  3. a Space Shuttle EVA glove (micrometeoroid layer only)
  4. a fragment of material from Alan Shepard's MR-3 parachute
By the time I reached the front, and with the help of those around me, I selected the "Who's Who" and Apollo 13 meal for appraisal.

The first step is be directed to a specialist. The volunteers who were organizing who goes where debated for a little as to where to send me, but ultimately both my book and artifact were directed to the Collectibles tables.

Ushered there by another volunteer, I stood once again in line until I was directed to the very pleasant Elyse. She looked familiar and for good reason -- she lead the Christie's 1999 space memorabilia auction for the first session.

I first presented the Apollo 13 meal. She asked where I acquired it (Superior, which she guessed before I could answer), how much I paid and what I thought it was worth. She then placed it to the side and turned her attention to my "Who's Who."

Her face lit up when I told her the story behind its "creation." After a few minutes of flipping through the pages she said she wanted to have it filmed and led me to the show's producer. I presented my story once again and it was agreed I would be filmed, for a segment at the appraiser's station (not the "center" tables more often associated with the show).

I then waited. And waited. And waited some more. The film crew was backlogged and as such I was invited to sit behind Elyse as she continued her appraisals. Again, the time passed was fun watching what others had brought.

One poor guy lugged what was obviously a heavy box over, spent 10 minutes unwrapping it to unveil a framed Declaration of Independence. He was positive it was real. The appraiser (Rudy, sitting to Elyse's side) took one look, saw the words printed at the bottom: "Reproduction" and quickly dismissed the collector. Other items included an album of original photos from the 1939 World's Fair, numerous watches from the 1950s (all worth about $10 each) and some old bottles and glasses worth less the day they were created.

Finally, the camera crew arrived and they filmed a two minute segment of Elyse and I talking about the book. At the close, she revealed her estimate.

"Given that its one-of-a-kind and given that there is a great story which accompanies the book, I would estimate it would sell for $8000 to $10,000. If you continue collecting, it could probably be worth much more."

After the camera crew left, Elyse said she wanted her own camera crew to film my story (and book) and led me outside the hall to find them. For those in the NY area, she is with Metro. They filmed a slightly longer segment where I talked about both the Apollo 13 meal and Who's Who.

If my Antiques Roadshow segment makes the final cut, it will air sometime next year. I do not know when or if my Metro segment will air, but if I hear anything I will let you know.

All in all, a very fun day.

astronut
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posted 07-14-2001 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astronut   Click Here to Email astronut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Robert! Sounded like great fun. I hope to see it when it airs.

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posted 07-15-2001 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sikotic19   Click Here to Email sikotic19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert, were you happy with the appraisal? Were you expecting more or less? And what did they say for the value of the Apollo 13 meal?

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posted 07-17-2001 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OPOS   Click Here to Email OPOS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I am curious as to the food pack's worth as well.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-17-2001 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I hinted to, the food packet was largely ignored as interest was turned to the "Who's Who." As a result, I didn't really press for an estimate on the food's value, content with being filmed for my book.

Ben
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posted 07-17-2001 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats! Hope to see you on TV...

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posted 07-18-2001 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ed beck   Click Here to Email Ed beck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They were more interested in your collection of astronaut autographs instead of a unique piece of, significant, flown, spaceflight history? Jim Lovells uneaten meal from day 8? The same meal pack that flew every inch of the way to the Moon with the Apollo 13 crew? That one really has me shaking my head.

I think it would be nice to have say, Davey Crocketts autograph. But, I would gladly trade it for an authentic brick from the Alamo any day. Oh well, to each thier own.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-18-2001 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wasn't all that suprised by their attention to the book over the meal.

I assumed prior to attending that they would not have anyone present who could really be considered a space memorabilia specialist. By definition, their "specialists" had to be generalists, in order to handle the 13,000 items they were to see that day.

Furthermore, to the show' s producer at least, the attraction of the 'Who's Who" was not so much its historical signficance as the story of its creation. When compared in this resspect, the A-13 meal (which was machine produced and was mostly a minor component of the mission) becomes less interesting.

Besides, I was able to tell the appraiser how much I paid for the meal and how much similar items had sold for at auction, so in essense I already knew the meal's value before even stepping up to the table.

On the other hand, given to how close I am to my "Who's Who" -- it has literally accompanied me for over 15 years whereever I have travelled -- I was unable to even fathom a guess on its value. It presented more of a challenge to the appraiser.

Joe Davies
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posted 07-18-2001 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Davies   Click Here to Email Joe Davies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert, I seriously admire your patience and tenacity with the TV company during the filming!

I am interested to know how much credence you place on their valuation, and what benchmarks they gave you for their valuation.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-18-2001 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really do not know what to think of their estimate.

The book has always been more of a personal memento than a piece of memorabilia. In fact, when I display my collection, it is rarely (if ever) included.

And though I am aware of the value of the individual autographs contained within, I have never seen another piece sell with so many of together on the same piece.

So, is the estimate accurate? Who knows? Someone once suggested I place the book up for auction but set a very high reserve (to see what interest it receives). It was an interesting idea, but one I could never do as I would fear too much the possibility (however slim) that it could sell.

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posted 07-18-2001 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for music_space   Click Here to Email music_space     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert, so you'll keep up posted on the eventual broadcast of the Roadshow? How about the broadcast of Elyse's show?

Larry McGlynn
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posted 08-13-2001 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this a late posting, but I would be interested in what you would value the Apollo 13 food for?

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posted 08-13-2001 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kirsten   Click Here to Email Kirsten     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geee Robert, I can understand your emotions about your Who's Who... it's the same with me, there's one of my books which I take to every event where I possibly could meet some astronauts.

The first one I got in 1992, cute little 28 in-person autographs by now, but the collection is growing... Never ever would I put that one for sale!

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-13-2001 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Larry, based on what I have seen similar food sell for and based on the reserve the seller wanted to place on its sale but forgot to do so in time, I would estimate a conservative $7,500-$9,000. I think it could sell for much more, as some other, small food samples have, but unless my hand was forced, I wouldn't let it go for much less.

Larry McGlynn
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posted 08-23-2001 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert, thank you for the response on the Apollo 13 food. That is a great piece.

I, too, have a piece of food from Apollo 12 that Conrad and Bean took to the lunar surface. Bean certified it for me last August in Chicago.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-15-2001 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As some may remember, my Who's Who in Space book was filmed during the New York City taping of Antiques Road Show.

PBS has now released the 2002 broadcast schedule:

  • Feb 11 New York - Hour One
  • Feb 18 New York - Hour Two
  • Feb 25 New York - Hour Three
Now, whether my segment made it past the editing room is yet to be seen — but I'll let everyone know in February!

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-11-2002 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, episode one has aired and... and if you look quickly you can see me in the background!

Look for the woman with the milk pasteurization set; behind her you can see where I first received my appraisal. Wait a bit and you can see me walk towards the camera, "Who's Who" in hand (I was off to wait for my time in the spotlight, i.e. the camera crew).

Hopefully, next week will be my turn in the foreground.

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posted 02-12-2002 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sts205cdr   Click Here to Email sts205cdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, I saw you, Robert, clear as day!

BigWaveDave
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posted 02-13-2002 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigWaveDave   Click Here to Email BigWaveDave     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Too bad it wasn't you holding that $150,000 table. Good luck!

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posted 02-18-2002 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heads-up! Episode two is tonight at 8pm EST. Good luck Rob!

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posted 02-18-2002 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He made it! Congrats! You were great Robert.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-18-2002 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And there I was!

The second episode filmed in New York aired tonight and no later than five minutes into the program, my Who's Who filled the screen!

I'll be posting a Quicktime movie of the segment in the next few days.

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posted 02-18-2002 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JAE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert, you made the Antiques Roadshow tonight (2/18), right at the opening of the show.

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posted 02-19-2002 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wehaveliftoff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats, Robert! Glad it was the beginning of the program too.

Anyone there relate to your obsession (er, hobby?)

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posted 02-19-2002 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for barnstormer   Click Here to Email barnstormer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great segment and VERY surprising. Much like the mental impression you imagine, when listening to someone on the radio and then the shock of seeing a vastly different image in person. You were MUCH younger than I had imagined.

After corresponding with you, and knowing how much you have collected and all you have done, so far — I had a mental picture of you as a wise old man. Now I am pleased to note that you have many more decades of achievement and contributions, still ahead of you...

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Robert, how did you think it went? I know you went over this a little right after it happened, but I thought it would be interesting to hear it now that time has passed, and we have all seen it.

The segment seemed brief on air, I am sure there was more background though.

I got the impression that collecting space is a new genre, and the people we post with day in and day out in these groups, are the experts. That is compared to people who rated those antique dolls or furniture for example.

Of course, the people who post on these various boards make up a large segment of market too, thus we set value and prices ourselves.

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posted 02-19-2002 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astronut   Click Here to Email astronut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doug, great point.

Years ago on the Roadshow an ex-NASA employee had a dollar bill signed by John Glenn and flown on Friendship 7. It was framed with the matte signed by dozens of employees involved with the launch. The appraiser said something along the lines that it was "interesting but with little value" as few would be interested in such an item. I believe he appraised it for $400-500. I think most of us know it's worth a "bit more."

While the show has many excellent experts, even autograph specialists would have a hard time appraising astronaut/cosmonaut autographs. They wouldn't know that while the field of hardcore collectors of space memorabilia is quite small, we highly value, and compete quite hard often paying big bucks for the truly rare items.

If they had a lot of space memorabilia coming in for appraisal then they'd need someone like Ken Havekotte, Donnis Willis, or the like to give honest valuations. I doubt that more than one or two items from our field show up at each Roadshow venue.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-19-2002 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As luck would have it, the appraiser was at least partially familiar with space memorabilia — she was the auctioneer at Christie's for the first space memorabilia auction (although going by those results, she might have been inflating the appraisal!)

Seriously though, the Roadshow is first to admit when they do not have an expert to your particular item. Sure there are errors (the flown bill Wayne described is a perfect example) but when I presented my flown Apollo 13 meal, even Elyse (the appraiser) wasn't comfortable venturing a guess -- she recommended contacting Superior.

Is my book worth $10,000? Hard to say. Since I never plan to sell it for any amount of money, I guess we'll never know.

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posted 02-19-2002 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary In NY   Click Here to Email Gary In NY     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert, why won't you sell the book? I figured you got it appraised so you would know what kind of market value it would pull in.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-19-2002 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quite the contrary Gary — my curiosity led me to Antiques Roadshow, not a desire to sell. I was interested to see what value their appraisers would assign and I was enticed by the opportunity to possibly appear on TV (as did happen).

While standing in line for several hours, waiting for my chance to enter the set, I had a chance to meet many others seeking appraisals. Its my impression that a majority of those who appear on Antiques Roadshow (and a majority who do not make the actual show but attend) have absolutely no intention to sell. Just a curiosity...

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It's not often that I watch the Roadshow on PBS but that show is interesting and fascinating because you never know what someone has! I enjoyed your segment. I was surprised to put a face with your name.

I found your book to be one heck of a collection.

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