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FFrench
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posted 08-12-2009 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have heard a story that a Jim Rathmann car dealership decal made it onto the lunar surface — in fact, in the version I heard, it was stuck on Apollo 15's lunar rover. Many of the astronauts were good friends with Rathmann, who leased them Corvettes, so it's not completely implausible, although it would have been done without NASA management knowing.

One colleague told me that the anecdote appears somewhere in Jim Irwin's autobiography, although I have never been able to find it.

Has anyone else heard this story, or know of a source? Thank you.

moorouge
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posted 08-13-2009 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have had a very quick browse through the lunar photos of the Apollo 15 rover. This one shows a very indistinct decal shape on the bottom of the left, front fender.

This doesn't mean it is — just means there's an indistinct shape.

FFrench
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posted 08-14-2009 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much for looking for the photos. I am not quite sure what I am looking for in that photo, but I appreciate you looking through them.

Has anyone else heard that decal story anywhere? Thanks.

moorouge
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posted 08-15-2009 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The shape is on what might be called the mud-flap — what seems to be an extension of the front fender. It is circular with some blurred features within the faint outline.

If it is a decal, knowing the clinging properties of moon dust, suppose it would be dust covered. Hope this helps.

Randy Pickering
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posted 08-19-2009 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy Pickering   Click Here to Email Randy Pickering     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a photo of a lunar rover on the moon with a bumper sticker from Jim Rathmann, Cheverly Melbourne, Florida? I have researched this and cannot find any proof.

I did talk to someone from Kennedy Space Center in Florida who said:

I heard of a story that the astronauts put a pan of sand under one of the rovers in the O&C building, taped the sticker on the rover and took a photo of it and then took the sticker off.
I have heard that Mr. Rathmann did have a photo of a lunar rover with one of his bumper stickers on it hanging over his desk. Any information on this would be greatly appreciated.

FFrench
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posted 08-19-2009 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much, Randy. You KSC guides always seem to know the best stories!

This version certainly sounds very plausible — more likely, in fact, than it actually making it to the moon. If you (or anyone else) learn more about this, I'd be most grateful. Thank you.

MOL
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posted 02-05-2024 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MOL   Click Here to Email MOL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The story of the Jim Rathmann decal appears on page 49 of the book "The Light Stuff" by Bob Ward published in 1982:
What music producer Mickey Kapp calls the "biggest gotcha of all" put Jim Rathmann on the moon. With the four-wheeled lunar rover being used on the later Apollo flights, and with Rathmann in the car business and all, his astronaut buddies thought it only fitting that a commercial message be placed on a moon buggy. So they put a bumper sticker on the vehicle, and kept replacing it every time more sober-sided NASA people yanked it off.

In the end the sticker stayed on - all the way to the moon. It reads JIM RATHMANN CHEVROLET, and it's there still.

Paul78zephyr
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posted 02-15-2024 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul78zephyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was a well researched/written book about the lunar rovers published not that long ago (2021) titled "Across the Airless Wilds" by Earl Swift. The author goes into great detail about the history/conception, design, manufacture, and deployment of the rovers on the moon during the last three Apollo missions.

Although it has been probably a year and a half since I read my local library network's copy I don't recall anything about this 'decal' mentioned in the book. Of course it is simply possible I don't remember or that the author did not include it.

Philip
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posted 02-18-2024 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe check April 14, 1971 NASA photos of the actual LRV being attached to the LM "Falcon."

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