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Obviousman
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posted 02-05-2011 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obviousman   Click Here to Email Obviousman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My brother-in-law asked this question tonight, and I have no idea. Were the Apollo command module parachutes reused?

I suspect not due to salt water contamination but would like to check.

Lou Chinal
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posted 02-05-2011 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as I know, no.

The primary objective was to recover the crew and the CM.

SpaceAholic
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posted 02-05-2011 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saltwater contamination was an issue (for the minority of parachutes actually recovered, the canopies were left to languish in their recovery bags until they were returned back to JSC for inspection at which point a fresh-water wash-down was applied). Even subsequent to the wash-down there is evidence of corrosion on some of the ferrous components of the risers.

There are examples on my canopy and deployment bag of (less then 2-3 cm diameter) splotches where remnants of small still very toasty ablated pieces of heatshield impacted as they detached off the CM in the slipstream.

And while they nylon used during the chute's construction is elastic, there is a a limit at which the deformation is permanent and the material will not return to its original size and shape. During packing (via ram compression) through extraction/ deployment, the canopy and riser lines were subjected to very high dynamic loads which cycled the nylon through its elastic modulus. Throw in abrasion (during extraction) and in many instances lines getting severed during recovery and it becomes apparent why North American/NASA didnt seriously entertain chute recycling.

moorouge
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posted 02-05-2011 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Up to and including Apollo 15 wasn't there the possibility of contamination from the fuel dump? This was judged to be one of the causes for the failure of a chute on that mission. After '15' the fuel dump was deleted from pre-landing activities.

SpaceAholic
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posted 02-05-2011 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes - however it was an anomalous event (subsequently resolved with a procedural change) and not something factored into consideration for chute reuse.

MikeSpace
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Not sure how accurate but I brought up the two chutes thing to Al Worden. He told me two things:
  • Difference in rate of descent was around four feet per second.

  • When whatever was purged [RCS fuel? Nitric acid and Hydrazine?] the Command Module floated down in the cloud of nasty stuff long enough to damage the remaining chutes. He may have mentioned lack of wind during descent under chutes as contributing factor.
All mistakes mine. Except Al's, or course. [rimshot]

Lou Chinal
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posted 02-05-2011 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a note the SRB parachutes are reused. Keep in mind the SRB parachutes are NOT man-rated.

Obviousman
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posted 02-06-2011 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obviousman   Click Here to Email Obviousman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank for all the replies - ain't this place great?

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