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muirfield
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posted 02-09-2006 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for muirfield   Click Here to Email muirfield     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read on one thread something about the condition of the photographs Charlie Duke left on the moon (a tribute to his family). It got me wondering, what would happen to artifacts left on the moon? Would they deteriorate over time? With little/no atmosphere, I guess things would not oxidize or rust, but they'd be getting hammered by solar rays. Any thoughts?

Chris

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 02-09-2006 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chris,

I suspect the Duke photo will be shot. The intense sunlight would have faded to image to zilch within a pretty short time-scale. Probably a year or two if I had to guesstimate not allowing for the effects of radiation. The paper would then have yellowed or even browned and curled in the heat.

When parts of the Surveyor craft were returned during Apollo 12 they showed significant wear and tear after only a few years. The 30 years plus that have elapsed since the landings would have taken a pretty heavy toll on the artifacts.

Regards,

Rick.

GACspaceguy
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posted 02-09-2006 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Charlie Duke spoke at our bible study sponsored program last year and had mentioned that photo specifically. He said that no sooner had he taken the picture of it, than it started to curl up and turn black due to the 212 degree F heat plus intense sunlight. He then said he should have put it in the shade as it might have stood a chance there.

mjanovec
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posted 02-09-2006 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GACspaceguy:
Charlie Duke spoke at our bible study sponsored program last year and had mentioned that photo specifically. He said that no sooner had he taken the picture of it, than it started to curl up and turn black due to the 212 degree F heat plus intense sunlight. He then said he should have put it in the shade as it might have stood a chance there.

Or perhaps buried it under some lunar dust. Which makes me wonder...what are the insulating qualities, if any, of lunar dust?

Duke Of URL
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posted 02-09-2006 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duke Of URL   Click Here to Email Duke Of URL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd think the UV would do as much of a job as anything else.

Ben
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posted 02-09-2006 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I understand, scientists blieve the US flags left on the moon have most likely faded to nothing, if not literally crumbled to dust from the radiation.

We may return only to find an aluminum pole standing in its place.

muirfield
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posted 02-10-2006 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for muirfield   Click Here to Email muirfield     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's too bad - I just assumed the landing sites would be preserved indefintely.

What about the metal components like the LEM descent stage? Would they disintegrate? If so, what would happen to them, with no atmosphere to rust them etc?

Chris

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