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mensax
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posted 07-12-2005 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would anyone know where the flown Apollo Saturn V first stages are? Would they all be close together? or did they take different paths and burn for different lengths of time?

I wonder what their condition would be? What would impact with the ocean have done to them? And what would the effect of being underwater all this time have made on them?

Who owns them?

Finaly I wonder why no attempt has been made on their recovery? Wouldn't a huge piece of the Apollo 11 rocket be worth quite a bit? What a tremendous museum exhibit it would make! And, who wouldn't mind having a piece of it in their collection?

Noah

Capcom1
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posted 07-12-2005 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capcom1   Click Here to Email Capcom1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've often thought the same thing(s)...
Doesn't seem like they'd be too hard to find, after all, they found Liberty Bell 7!
As for the condition, I would think the F1s would be in the best shape, with all that stainless steel. Ascent stability aside, I wonder what happens to an empty, relatively thin-walled tank, 305,000 lbs (dry) when it hits water at an odd angle from a height of
175,000 feet? What a sight! I'm surprised there were no cameras tracking that....

Larry McGlynn
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posted 07-12-2005 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Noah,

Hey Old Buddy, this has been discussed before. Here is the thread.
http://collectspace.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000820.html

There is a reason why no one has ever gone after them.

Also NASA still owns the first stages.

[This message has been edited by Larry McGlynn (edited July 12, 2005).]

mensax
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posted 07-12-2005 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Larry! You've got a great memory device sitting on those shoulders.

That's a great posting... there seems to be some debate about what might be left... maybe you could do some diving in that area and let us know what you find?

Noah

mark plas
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posted 07-12-2005 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark plas   Click Here to Email mark plas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So nobody has ever seen footage or pictures of an saturnv first stage hitting the ocean?

Larry McGlynn
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posted 07-12-2005 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"So nobody has ever seen footage or pictures of an saturnv first stage hitting the ocean?"

Mark,

The area was off limits to all shipping. Although if it were nowadays, you might someone out in that part of the ocean waiting with a catcher mit?

I doubt anybody would want to try standing in, near or above the potential landing area of over 500 square miles which waiting for an object weighing a few hundred tons to drop out of the sky at a very high rate of speed.

Water is non-compressable, so the impact would be like falling on concrete. The S-1C is at best two very large fuel tanks. The impact would destroy the structure. The engine bells may survive, but at $1,000,000 for a short exploration expedition, who's going to look.

Just look at the old thread, it pretty much sums up your questions about the S-1C. I also talked with Curt Newport at that time and he gave me most of the expedition costs.

Noah,

I like deep diving, but 16,000 feet is a bit too much for me. Plus the bottom time would be really short.

Larry

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