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Topic: 170260759018: Mercury 7 signed cover
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328KF
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Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 09-17-2008 09:52 AM
   
Just saw this one this morning...closed at $911, for a couple of autopens (Schirra, Cooper at least) and, IMO, a secretarial Shepard!Any thoughts on the other sigs? |
Ken Havekotte
Member Posts: 2914
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 09-17-2008 11:40 AM
Yes, the Shepard is a secretarial, with the others being APs except Glenn and Carpenter. Grissom is a bit odd (would have to see it closer because of my recent poor eyesight). |
328KF
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posted 09-17-2008 11:24 PM
Yes, Ken...I thought the Grissom to be "a bit odd" too, but it doesn't really match any autopen patterns I could find.I struggle with mixed items like this. While it would be great to get an authentic, rare signature, when you combine it with a group of autopens it just takes so much away from it, I think. Anyway, I am thankful for the resources of this forum to steer me in the right direction on these things! |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 09-18-2008 01:37 AM
As Ken stated above the Shepard is a secretarial (with a classic spiked "p"), the Schirra, Cooper, and Slayton APs, and the Carpenter and Glenn genuine. I too wasn't sure about the Grissom but it doesn't look like an AP.The seller's other closed items are a mixed bag:
The Bassett signed cover looks suspiciously like an AP that's slipped as it was being written (common with covers) but I suppose it could be genuine.
The C.C. Williams may be real but the blurry photo doesn't help with the judgement.
The Ed White is not an AP. Looks good to me.
The Armstrong, Borman, Conrad cover at $177.72 is all APs of course.
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yeknom-ecaps
Member Posts: 660
From: Northville MI USA
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 09-18-2008 10:40 AM
Bassett is definately a "slipped autopen" |
cddfspace
Member Posts: 609
From: Morris County, NJ, USA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 09-18-2008 01:31 PM
I must admit I was very tempted by the White cover, but seeing all of the other pieces kept me away from bidding. The next batch they have listed looks as mixed as the first! CDDFSPACE |
mjanovec
Member Posts: 3811
From: Midwest, USA
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 09-18-2008 02:47 PM
I agree that the White cover appeared to be very much the real deal. Somebody got a bargain there! |
328KF
Member Posts: 1234
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Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 09-18-2008 02:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by yeknom-ecaps:
Bassett is definately a "slipped autopen"
That's exactly what I thought looking at it...everything matched exactly except for the "B". Now I know of yet another trap to watch out for! I liked the White too, but as stated, the whole collection is suspect given the agreement here on those items offered already.
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capoetc
Member Posts: 2169
From: McKinney TX (USA)
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 09-18-2008 02:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by yeknom-ecaps:
Bassett is definately a "slipped autopen"
What is a "slipped autopen"? ------------------
John Capobianco
Camden DE |
328KF
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posted 09-18-2008 09:06 PM
John,It appears to be a regular autopen pattern except that a section of it, or maybe even just one letter, becomes elongated because the paper being signed "slipped" in the machine. It's kind of like if you were drawing a series of circles and someone bumps your arm (or the paper). Now you might have a series of circles and one oval. Take a look at the Bassett link above, and notice the "B". It is an exact match of a known Bassett autopen with the exception of that one letter. |
capoetc
Member Posts: 2169
From: McKinney TX (USA)
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 09-19-2008 01:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 328KF:
Take a look at the Bassett link above, and notice the "B". It is an exact match of a known Bassett autopen with the exception of that one letter.
Ah, that explains it ... thanks!------------------
John Capobianco
Camden DE |
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