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Topic: Appraisal: Apollo 1 Cape Canaveral cover
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randyc Member Posts: 779 From: Chandler, AZ USA Registered: May 2003
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posted 03-28-2009 03:41 PM
I recently bought a cover with an Interspace cachet cancelled with a Cape Canaveral, FL hand cancel on January 27, 1967. It is the same type of cover that was lot 132 in the Regency-Superior auction held on October 10, 2008 that, according to the prices realized list, sold for $950 (is that a typo?). My questions are: - Was this cover definitely backdated, maybe backdated, or really cancelled on January 27, 1967 (or perhaps the next day)?
- Was a genuine Cape Canaveral Post Office hand cancellation device used?
- If the cover is backdated is it collectible if a genuine Cape Canaveral Post Office hand cancellation device was used? and
- Although someone paid $950 for a similar cover, what would be a more realistic price for it?
I look forward to any information that you can provide. |
Ross Member Posts: 472 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 03-29-2009 07:48 AM
The excellent CD from the Space Unit "Study of Suspect Space Covers" states that Cape Canaveral Cancellation are "Not Likely Genuine" for Apollo 1 covers. Steve Durst from the Space Unit agrees and makes the following comment in his upcoming book "The Cape Canaveral pm postmark for January 27, 1967, is also suspect as the Cape Canaveral post office was closed at the time of the Apollo 1, Apollo 204 fire." In both cases the cachet appears to be an official NASA cachet but is almost certainly contrived. It would be interesting to see a scan of your cover for comparison. Therefore the answers to your questions are: - Almost certainly either backdated or fake
- See above
- I'll let others comment on this
- I'll also leave it to others to put a value on such a cover but I certainly wouldn't pay $950 for one.
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micropooz Member Posts: 1512 From: Washington, DC, USA Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 03-29-2009 09:36 AM
There is some discussion of similarly postmarked (Cape Canaveral hand cancel 1/27/67) on this thread, although they concentrate more on the KSC cachet aspect of the cover.The only area post office that was still supposed to be open that night after the fire was the Patrick AFB PO. So, Patrick postmarks from 1/27/67 actually have a chance of having been applied the night of the fire. I cannot attest that the Patrick postmarks are legit, but a window in time did exist where that could have happened. However, the KSC and CC PO's were supposed to have been closed prior to the time of the fire, so they have a whole lot less chance of being legit, IMHO. |
randyc Member Posts: 779 From: Chandler, AZ USA Registered: May 2003
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posted 03-29-2009 01:23 PM
Thank you for the inputs so far. It appears that there is no conclusive evidence that these covers are backdated. It's been stated that the Cape Canaveral post office was closed, but could it be that even though the customer service part of the post office was closed that postal workers were continuing to process (cancel) mail received that day? And if they were indeed backdated would these covers still be collectible if an official Cape Canaveral post office hand cancellation device was used, and if only a few covers were cancelled the next day or within several days? Cover collectors know that, for first day covers, the First Day of Issue cancellation is used for approximately 30 days after the official first day that the stamp was available to the public, and these covers are all accepted as collectible first day covers. Also, in the case of some recovery ship covers, the ships cancellation was used even though the covers were not on the recovery ship. Once again these covers are collectible. I understand that in the case of event covers such as the Apollo 1 fire it is highly desirable to have a cover that was definitely cancelled on the day of the event, but in this case if the best that a collector can get is a cover cancelled the next day, wouldn't it still be accepted and collectible? That being said, I believe that what's important in this case is whether the hand cancellation device is actually from the Cape Canaveral post office and was cancelled within days of the fire. If it was, I believe that the cover is collectible; if it isn't an official cancellation device (like the "Plugged 9" Cape Canaveral hand cancellation device used on many Orbit covers or the cancellation devices used on the Riser covers), then the cover is (and should be) considered a fake and not collectible (except as an example of a fake cover). So it would be important to know if an official Cape Canaveral post office hand cancellation device was used, and, if possible, when these covers were cancelled and how many were cancelled. By the way, I'm not trying to justify the authenticity of this cover because I have a lot invested in it (actually I didn't spend much), but, as a collector, I'm interested in knowing as much as I can about it because it is documenting a significant event in the history of the U.S. manned space program. Keep those opinions coming in! |
yeknom-ecaps Member Posts: 660 From: Northville MI USA Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 03-30-2009 07:45 PM
Based on best information available - the Cape Canaveral post office window was closed by 5 pm and cancelling was completed (at the latest) by 6:30 p.m. a minute before the fire. PAFB post office was open until 8 p.m. with cover servicers in the area to access it. Backdated covers are collectible but at lower prices (example the backdated USS Noa Glenn recovery ship covers having legitimate USS Noa cancels on Project Mercury stamps sell for considerably less - hundreds less - than actual cancels. |
Tykeanaut Member Posts: 2212 From: Worcestershire, England, UK. Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 03-31-2009 03:19 PM
I picked up an Apollo 1 "In memoriam" cover from a stamp fair a couple of weeks ago. It's cancelled Jan 27, 1967 in Houston and was produced by the Space City Cover Society. Is this scarce, or worth much? |
NAAmodel#240 Member Posts: 312 From: Boston, Mass. Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 04-20-2009 07:34 PM
I would value the Houston cancel at $100. |
spaceman1953 Member Posts: 953 From: South Bend, IN Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 04-22-2009 05:33 PM
Seems like I read some time ago that SCCS made 500 covers for that night.I had one way back in 1967 and sent it out to Mrs. Grissom for an autograph. Stupid me, but as a young kid, it never occurred to me (I had never, up to that time, lost a close family member or friend to death) that I might be asking for way too much. I never saw the cover again. It took me some 10, 15, 20 or 25 years to find another one of those covers available for sale. | |
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