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hbw60
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posted 09-28-2021 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hbw60   Click Here to Email hbw60     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This listing is for an Apollo 11 Robbins Medallion restrike, which has been plated in 24K gold. These are custom-finished. When these were originally released, I wanted a gold version like the ones the crew carried to the lunar surface. However, the only gold options were solid gold, with a very high price tag to match. So I decided to have one gold-plated instead. It's easier to get these done in batches, and I figured I wouldn't be the only one interested in one; so I got a batch of 10 made.

These started out as regular copper medallions. Each one was first polished to give it a shinier surface. Normally I polish medallions using a dremel tool, but in this case I didn't want a uniformly shiny finish. Armstrong's gold medallion has a hand-polished look. The raised surfaces look shinier than the surface below, and there's an aged look to it. I wanted to get closer to that, so I polished these by hand, focusing on the raised surfaces. That left them with a slightly "foggier" look on the bottom and in nooks. It also left some of the black aging on the medallions, which shines through in places. So they have an intentionally imperfect look to them, as they're meant to resemble flown medallions rather than mint replicas. After being plated, each one was carefully cleaned to remove any fingerprints, and then resealed in its original case.

Photos of the finished medallions can be seen here. It was very hard to photograph them, as they either looked too shiny or too dark. So I tried to take some from multiple angles, with and without a flash.

I'm asking $125 for each one. US Shipping is $5 for any amount. International Shipping is $21 for any amount. If you're interested, please send me an email. Thank you!

Tallpaul
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posted 10-06-2021 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tallpaul   Click Here to Email Tallpaul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just curious. Do you indicate anywhere in the sales material or on the coin itself that it has been gold plated?

hbw60
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posted 10-06-2021 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hbw60   Click Here to Email hbw60     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[Posted in error - please refer to my later response.]

fredtrav
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posted 10-06-2021 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think what Tallpaul was trying to say was that is it marked on the coin somehow that it is plated. To keep future owners from trying to pass it off as a solid gold one.

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posted 10-06-2021 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hbw60   Click Here to Email hbw60     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I see now. Sorry for misunderstanding.

That is a good point, which I hadn't considered. For the discerning collector, I think it will be obvious that this is not one of the solid gold coins, for four reasons. First, the gold coins were only produced in .5 oz sizes, and this is a 1 oz coin. Second, the gold/silver coins have their details stamped into the rim, while these copper ones do not. Third, the gold coins have a highly polished design, while these are made to look more aged. And fourth, these come in standard cases/packaging, while the gold coins come in NGC slabs and fancy packaging.

So if somebody tried to pass these off as solid gold medallions, I'd hope that anyone willing to spend that amount would be able to see that immediately. But I'd hate for someone to get scammed who didn't know the difference. However, I don't know how to do that without damaging the medallions. If anyone has any advice, I'd be amenable to it.

Again, sorry for misunderstanding the original question!

Tallpaul
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posted 10-06-2021 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tallpaul   Click Here to Email Tallpaul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate to rain on your parade of what is a well intentioned project. However, one must never underestimate the ability for certain players in the marketplace to create objects solely to deceive others.

Currently, in the field of numismatics there is a plague of counterfeit NGC and PCGS slabs containing counterfeit and altered coins. So the potential is there for an unscrupulous actor to take one of these gold plated medals, put it in a fake slab and sell it on eBay or some other digital marketplace.

Lastly, by placing the medals in the original packaging from Robbins there is an implied legitimacy and authenticity to the medals that you have plated. As I mentioned, you are well intentioned, but once the medals leave your possession who knows where they could end up.

hbw60
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posted 10-06-2021 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hbw60   Click Here to Email hbw60     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, it's a very valid point. I hadn't considered this. But I'm not sure what to do. I've put nearly $1000 into this project, and I'm not wealthy enough to just throw that away. And it'd be a real shame to destroy these medallions.

And of course, if there are malicious people out there, then cutting off my supply won't stop them. Almost every jeweler in the world offers gold-plating services. So if I were to stop selling these, all they'd have to do is buy a copper medallion on eBay, take it to their local jeweler, and get an identical plating. It'd actually be a better option than buying my "aged" ones, because they could get it polished to a mirror finish.

But despite that, I'd rather lose all of this money then see someone else spend thousands of dollars on one of these that was fraudulently advertised. So I'll try to find a solution. I may be able to get a jeweler to engrave something on the edge.

Thank you for pointing this out!

Tallpaul
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posted 10-07-2021 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tallpaul   Click Here to Email Tallpaul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A competent jeweler with the right equipment would be able to engrave the edge. My local jeweler has a computerized engraving machine that engraves just about anything including glass. The convention is to engrave a plated item with the letters GP (gold plated) or HGE (heavy gold electroplate). I am sure that you could find someone in your neck of the woods to handle this for you.

Best of luck.

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