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Rizz
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From: Upcountry, Maui, Hawaii
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posted 10-02-2003 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rizz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone planning on attending this conference?

It's nice out here in November

...the International Lunar Conference 2003 is a decisive week-long gathering of American and international space program representatives, scientists and engineers, astronomers, business people and entrepreneurs, educators and enthusiasts -- all seeking to develop global and inter-global understandings, strategies, initiatives and enterprises leading to a permanent human presence on our Moon within the decade.

John Young and Harrison Schmitt are scheduled to attend.

http://www.spaceagepub.com/ilc_2003.html

Rizz

[This message has been edited by Rizz (edited October 02, 2003).]

Jake
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posted 10-02-2003 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jake   Click Here to Email Jake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am making arrangements and have put money down for the tour of KECK, the first day of the conference, and the banquet. There may be some scheduling problems, however, with a conference we are hosting here at work that might gum up the works, but I'm still hoping to attend.

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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)

danatbird
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posted 10-03-2003 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for danatbird   Click Here to Email danatbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I'll be there for Young's and Schmitt's talks. However I plan to spend the rest of the time exploring Hawaii. :-)

Jake
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posted 10-06-2003 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jake   Click Here to Email Jake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The work confr. has won the scheduling conflict - argh..... Oh well, making money instead of spending it. Hope all of you who go have a good time.

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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)

BigWaveDave
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posted 10-07-2003 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigWaveDave   Click Here to Email BigWaveDave     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lunar Conference right in Dave's back yard! Ohhhh yeah....

Ya'll come on down, but make sure you bring your sun tan lotion.

I'm signed up for the whole week(the heck with work).
I think the Mauna Kea tour is a "don't miss" item. Tiptoeing through the lava fields with a moon walker or two sounds like good fun! Maybe a side trip to the volcano would be in order too.

Hope to see some of you folks here, keep an eye out for me, I'll be wearing sunglasses, shorts, flip flops, and a real loud "aloha" shirt. Just kidding, shoot me an Email if your coming this way, I can show you where to go and what to see. I might take my telescope up to the visitors center on Mauna Kea. No moon viewing that week, but Mars,and Saturn will be up and of course there's always great deep space viewing.

Aloha all, and Rizz..... hope to see you here.

Dave

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danatbird
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posted 10-07-2003 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for danatbird   Click Here to Email danatbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you seen something to indicate that a moonwalker would be on that tour with us? I'm still undecided on that part. Already signed up for the conference, but can't decide on that tour.

Rizz
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posted 10-07-2003 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rizz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry that you won't be able to make it out here Jake.

Danatbird, from what I understand, the Wednesday tour is an option.

Dr Schmitt should be on island by then, and I suppose he'd consider going on a tour like that, but there is no way to confirm that for sure, but what is for certain, it's going to be quite an experience, with out him, and icing on the cake if he takes the tour.

The tour is being operated by a company called Hawaii Space Tours.

Reading through some of the abstracts for the sessions, looks like we are headed in the right direction for more lunar exploration.

I'm just a short canoe ride from Maui and hoping to attend the whole week.

I would highly encourage anyone out there that has some frequent flyer miles, to consider coming out for a visit, especially if you've never been here.

Cosmo - Igor Volk is supposed to be on island as well.

Hey Big Wave Dave, I'll finally get to buy you a Mai Tai with one of those little funny umbrella's

Rizz

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BigWaveDave
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posted 11-22-2003 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigWaveDave   Click Here to Email BigWaveDave     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow!! What a great week!!!

This Conference was a week long "work shop" with the goal of getting humans back on the moon, ASAP. The speeches were presented by Astronauts, Scientists, Geologists, Architects, Tourism experts, and Business people. This group is very serious and very well organized. I strongly recomend you folks keep an eye on these conferences and their outcomes, I am happy to be a part of this force.

Some of the more interesting speakers that I was able to hear and meet included James Benson (SpaceDev), Dr. Ouyang Ziyuan (live teleconference from Beijing), Mike Duke (Colorado University of Mining), Prof. Madhu Thangavelu and David Schrunk. (Architects)

Also in attendence was Greg Nemitz, who claimed the astroid "Eros" a couple of weeks before Nasa landed on it and has sent them a bill for I believe $20.00 for landing rights. When I asked him if he had Liability insurance to cover any damage caused by Eros he quickly replied that it is in a safe orbit and did not expect any problems. His case goes before a jury in Reno Nev. See www.erosproject.com for more info.

The property rights issue in Space is going to be an important item to get resolved.

Of course the most interesting speaches in my layperson mentallity were those by Capt. John Young who spoke at the opening ceremonies and Harrison Schmitt who spoke about the use of the abundant Helium on the moon.

The best part of the week for me was to be able to spend some "quality, one on one" time with John and Suzy Young. I sat with them and chatted from the first day they arrived and throughout the week. They are two really great folks!

On Wednesday the 19th about 50 of us went up to Mauna Kea (mountain) to explore the lava flows and visit the telescopes at the Summit. Harrison did not attend.

John was constantly bending over and picking up the different rocks and examining them. He would quickly add "nope, we didn't find any of these on the moon". This is the same area a lot of the Apollo astronauts came to train.

This is about as close to moon terrain as I'm going to get and standing right next to a Moon Walker, it doesn't get any better then that!

On top of the mountain we split up and visited the different observatories. By pure luck I was in the same van as John and Suzy. We visted the VLBA (Very Long Base Array)http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/vlba/html/VLBA.html.

With just a few of us there, the scientist gave us a quick tour of the facilities not paying too much attention who we were. John and I ended up in the break room where on the wall was pinned a panoramic photo of, yes, Apollo 16. But there were two astronauts pictured in this photo. I asked John how could this be....we then discovered that both Astronaunts where Charlie Duke and it was actually two photos put together. You could see Charlie's footprints moving from one position to the other.

When the scientists rejoined us I explained that standing next to them was the man who took the this photo(s). You could have heard a pin drop!! Needless to say they where dumdfounded with excitement and scrambled to find a sharpie, and at almost 14,000 feet elevation that can be a challange. John signed his photo.

All and all this was a great Astronaut encounter a wonderful learning experience for me. The next Lunar conference is scheduled for India in two years I believe.

My thanks to all those who participated, especially John and Suzy Young and of course Steve Durst with "Space Age publishing Company" and "Hawaii Space Tours" and his staff who put together a wonderfull conference.

Aloha,
Dave

icarkie
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From: BURTON ON TRENT /England
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posted 11-23-2003 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for icarkie   Click Here to Email icarkie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Dave
Great photos,if you both had Wss on you would have thought it was a EVA (lol),I know you won't forget the experience.

mahalo nui loa! Dave.
Ian

Matt T
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posted 11-23-2003 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Matt T   Click Here to Email Matt T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That must have been absolutely fantastic Dave. Two of my favourite experiences in life were walking around the lava fields of Hawaii and the time I saw John Young in person.

To combine the two and throw in a bit of lunar prospecting as well - superb!

Thanks for the photos.

Cheers,
Matt

Jake
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posted 11-24-2003 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jake   Click Here to Email Jake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fantastic report...! Sad I could not be there....:-(

I did manage to get to the new SPACE exhibit at the Pacific Science Center in Seattle, but missed Cene Cernan. I was there on the "grand opening" day, but HE was there the two days BEFORE the grand opening! It was great to stand next to anout a 20 foot tall replica section of the Saturn V!

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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)

Rizz
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posted 11-24-2003 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rizz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the report BIG WAVE DAVE.

Due to high surf last week, 25'+ waves, my little canoe couldn't make the journey across the channel.

Actually, I had work commitments (hate when that happens!).

This was an important conference. I was able to read many of the abstracts - alot of passion out there.

Thanx for the pix-

So looks like Dave and John are pretty tight now

Way to go.

Aloha

Rizz

mensax
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posted 11-25-2003 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dave,

I'm not jealous. Not a bit. No siree!

Noah

danatbird
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posted 12-01-2003 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for danatbird   Click Here to Email danatbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are a couple of more photos of Young - these from his talk:
http://www.johnwyoung.org/misc/ilc03.htm

dave sixsmith
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posted 12-01-2003 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dave sixsmith   Click Here to Email dave sixsmith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WHATS THIS JOHN YOUNG SIGNING AN APOLLO PRINT!!!!!!
MUST BE SOMEONE ELSE!! WHO LOOKS LIKE
MY HERO......

kucharek
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From: Karlsruhe, Germany
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posted 12-04-2003 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kucharek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everone who knows John Young has one duty:
Drag him to the phone and make him call Eric Jones of the ALSJ and make them spend a week together going through the Apollo 16 part of the ALSJ, preferably together with Charlie Duke.
Young is the only living moonwalker who hasn't yet participated in the ALSJ. Maybe it was understandable 10 years ago, but the ALSJ has meanwhile proofed to be *the* source for information about the moonwalks and it's really a shame we haven't Young's view in it.

Harald

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