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randyc
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posted 04-05-2023 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen USS Randolph covers cancelled for the recovery of Gus Grissom on July 21, 1961 with the name of the ship at the top of the cancellation and at the bottom of the cancellation. Looking at examples of covers that I believe are genuine USS Randolph covers cancelled on July 21, 1961 all of the cancellations have the ship name on the bottom of the cancel.

The fake 'Riser' covers for the recovery of Gus Grissom have the name of the ship on the top of the cancellation and they are on embossed covers. I have also seen USS Randolph covers cancelled on July 21, 1961 with the name at the top of the cancellation on non-embossed covers (covers that used a stamp). My questions are:

  1. Did the USS Randolph have two different hand cancels with the ship name at the top and bottom of the cancellation that were used on July 21, 1961?

  2. Did Riser make fake MR-4 USS Randolph covers using non-embossed (stamped) covers?

astrobock
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posted 04-07-2023 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrobock   Click Here to Email astrobock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sent an example with ship name on top to your email.

randyc
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posted 04-07-2023 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did see the email with the picture of the cover. Thank you.

After I posted the message I recalled that Ross Smith has an excellent website with information on recovery ship covers and it shows the two different versions of the USS Randolph hand cancel used for the recovery of Gus Grissom on July 21, 1961.

NAAmodel#240
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posted 04-21-2023 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAAmodel#240   Click Here to Email NAAmodel#240     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe this is a genuine MR-4 cancel with an autopen signature.

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