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cboggan
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posted 07-20-2009 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cboggan   Click Here to Email cboggan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forty years ago, my uncle mailed myself and my brothers an envelope with something in it, (never opened it to find out what). The envelope has the Apollo 11 seal on it, with all of the astronauts names across the bottom front, and all kinds of neat stamps and dates on it. My mom told me it might be valuable someday, so I put it in a photo album and left it alone until today. I am just wondering what I have. Thanks.

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posted 07-21-2009 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eurospace   Click Here to Email eurospace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a simple First Day of Issue cover from the stamp commemorating the 1st Moon Landing. It was postmarked on the day this particular stamp was issued.

It would be a very nice cover with a very nice cachet - were it not so creased. Alas, it was probably not stored appropriately and suffered from that.

However, there are many of these covers on the market, and the commercial value is perhaps $2 or $3 each. Not that this is important - it is of sentimental value for anyone who lived when this historic event happened. Your uncle thought of you folks at that time, and that is what you should cherish about it.

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posted 07-21-2009 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cboggan   Click Here to Email cboggan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for the input! I think I will finally have to open it!

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posted 07-21-2009 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman1953   Click Here to Email spaceman1953     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like you (or the addressee) moved from the time it was addressed (mailed for postmarking) till the time it was delivered. There were nearly 10 million first day covers processed for this stamp so it took the post office department some time to get them all done.

And, of course, you WILL let us know what is in it, right???? Thanks!

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posted 07-21-2009 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cboggan   Click Here to Email cboggan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absolutely - it will be a couple of weeks, because I am going on a vacation, but when I get back, I am going to go to my Dad's house & open it w/him. (He worked for Kodak @ NASA back then).

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posted 07-21-2009 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you do open it, which I wouldn't advise, there might just be an insert filler card inside with no letter or note enclosure.

The majority of postal covers mailed out like this were only for souvenir purposes. When the cachet envelope was purchased, your uncle was probably told to put some sort of filler card or "stuffing" inside it. Such "fillers" inside would provide better processing and handling by the postal service.

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posted 07-21-2009 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ken Havekotte:
If you do open it, which I wouldn't advise, there might just be an insert filler card inside with no letter or note enclosure.
That's quite possibly true, but the "open carefully" note at the bottom of the cover seems to indicate there is something inside that is more than just an insert filler card.

Since the cover is not very valuable and isn't in the greatest condition, it might be worth opening it carefully just to see if indeed there is anything inside. Perhaps it's a Neil Armstrong autograph.

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posted 07-21-2009 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, I'll agree with the above. I didn't realize there was a "Open Carefully" notation on the cover, besides, the value as indicated wouldn't be a main factor anyway. Go ahead -- open it and see what is inside after 40 years of being closed up!

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posted 07-22-2009 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAAmodel#240   Click Here to Email NAAmodel#240     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Neil Armstrong Museum in Wapakoneta, Ohio issued a cachet similar to this. Since the Post Office Department cancelled envelopes for several months do members think this cover may have originated in Armstrong’s hometown?

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posted 07-22-2009 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Frasketi   Click Here to Email Joe Frasketi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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originally posted by Ken Havekotte:
open it and see what is inside after 40 years of being closed up!
If and when you do open the cover, use a pair of scissors and make a small even cut down the left side of the envelope, so as not to damage the cover or the contents. It will still be collectible this way, and a keepsake from your uncle.

I too would be interested in knowing/seeing what is inside.

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posted 07-22-2009 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Frasketi   Click Here to Email Joe Frasketi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This cachet submitted by cboggan is listed in the Monte Eiserman & Harry Anderson catalog of Apollo 11 First Day Cacheted Covers as cachet #202, it was originally listed as an unknown cachet, however in an updated edition it has been identified as a NASA Souvenir Shop cachet.

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posted 07-22-2009 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recommend that you 'slit open' the cover rather than cut it open, and use an X-acto knife. This technique won't damage the cover as much as cutting it open and also preserves the cover's collectibility.

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posted 07-22-2009 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The above cachet illustration, that started this topic, is a NASA Exchange Council cachet cover from the Kennedy Space Center. It was their second design issue for man's first lunar landing, but this one, specifically was produced for the new first day of issue 10-cent airmail stamp in Sept. 1969.

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posted 07-22-2009 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cboggan   Click Here to Email cboggan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all for your interest and information, I will carefully open it as you suggest. Although I WAS going to "steam" it open like Lucy (in "I Love Lucy") before I read all of this. Haha!

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posted 07-22-2009 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, steaming it open is the best idea. That way, if it's done carefully, there should be no damage to the envelope.

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posted 07-23-2009 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RMH   Click Here to Email RMH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you steam the envelope to much the stamp may come detached.

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posted 07-27-2009 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman1953   Click Here to Email spaceman1953     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I vote for a careful slit down the left side of the cover.

I have NEVER had any luck steaming anything (other than vegetables!).

Of course, holding it up to a bright light first will tell you if there is something inside other than a blank filler card... but you probably already know that there is something inside.

Ain't this fun!

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posted 07-27-2009 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstroAutos   Click Here to Email AstroAutos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh please open it, I can't take the suspense any longer...

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