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Norman.King
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posted 03-03-2010 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having found this forum whilst searching for information on the TMC re-released Code 3 capsule replicas (got the Gemini, still waiting for the Apollo and Mercury to turn up) and saw that the membership here was a goldmine of "Space knowledge" I initially wanted to ask if some old Revell model kits I've had laying around un-built for 15 years were worth selling to fund the TMC purchases and hopefully the Bandai Saturn V I've pre-ordered from HW Japan. They are:
  • Revell Launch Tower and Space Shuttle Kit # 4911
  • Revell 25th Anniversary (1994) Apollo Eagle and Columbia Kit # 04808
  • Revell 25th Anniversary (1994) Apollo Saturn V 1:96 # 04805
I know the Saturn V has been re-released (so that can go back in the attic for another ten years) but can anyone offer guidance on the possible value of the other two? (I put the first two on a well known auction site but had no bidding, so maybe they're not worth as much as I'd hoped for.)

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Tykeanaut
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posted 03-03-2010 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Norman, I too find it difficult to value some items. I tend to trawl the internet for the same items and see what prices they are going for.

Perhaps someone with more knowledge will come to your aide?

Jay Chladek
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posted 03-03-2010 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Saturn V is pretty common as Revell of Germany has continued to issue it in the 25th anniversary box long after the anniversary came and went. Average price for that tends to be about $75 or maybe a little higher (and usually lower due to its common nature).

If the Revell Apollo CSM and LM is the 1/48 scale kit, that is potentially worth a bit as those have not been issued since the 25th anniversary and I have a feeling the mold for it might be too worn to issue again. The 1/96 scale kit by comparison is somewhat common. Value for the 1/48 kit I've seen go in the $50 to $100 or higher range, depending on box condition.

As for the shuttle launch tower, I've seen those go for about $80 if it is just the launch tower to over $100 if it has a shuttle (although techically the tower is the same and the shuttle is still available, so shuttle value doesn't enter in to it all that much).

Big thing to keep in mind though are values can be very speculative in nature. A lot of it will depend on demand and potential customers, plus condition of the box (as some buyers will want to build, others collect). Some might sell high, others sell low. It also depends on the market at the time. The Saturn I don't think will go for that much, but the Apollo could. The shuttle tower demand is somewhat high as this is the final year for planned shuttle operations, even if it is not exactly a great kit.

So if you plan to sell these on some place like eBay, take these prices and values with a grain of salt and only use them as a guide rather then anything set in stone. Occasionally, I've seen stuff sell for stupid high prices if you've got two potential customers bidding on the model. But don't plan on that happening. If it does, it is icing on the cake. Good luck.

divemaster
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posted 03-04-2010 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for divemaster   Click Here to Email divemaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll throw in my two cents because I know that Jay is a bargain hunter and he's giving you the scrounge prices.

The big Shuttle Launch complex model - the entire thing in 1/144 has become next to impossible to find lately and I've seen it go as high as $300. It was just too big to build and put anywhere and that killed the original sales but raised the price.

I'll agree with the 1/48 CSM/LM. Rough to find and expensive. Even harder is the 1/48 CSM/LM/LES/SLA which is almost becoming the holy grail.

The 1/96 Saturn V is a point of contention with a lot of people. The 40th anniversary version, which, for some reason, came out in Australia first at $185 is NOT cheap. And while you might find the 1/96 from the 25th anniversary for as low as $75 [if you're lucky], I'd say the average price is more in the $100-$130 area depending how many are on the market. It's a matter of TIME. We just passed the 40th anniversary and this is the 25th anniversary. It all depends if you're talking to a builder or a collector. If you ever listen to the toy guy on Antiques Road Show, he'll always say that the box is the key to everything.

With the re-release of the Buzz Aldrin version of the 1/48 First Lunar Landing, 1/32 CSM and 1/144 Saturn V, I don't know how that's going to effect the market of the older models. Just as DWTS, I think that Buzz's face on the box art kills the model and makes the older versions more valuable. Collectors are very picky about box art. Builders are another story. I'd love to know the deal that Buzz cut with Revell/Monogram to reissue those models after all of this time. The molds have to be in rotten condition. I'd buy one just to see what they look like, but I've put enough money in his pocket in other ways. And I don't want to pay for his dancing lessons.

And to take you into the world where nothing makes sense...

The 1/100 flying Estes Saturn V, with very little detail, that came out for the 30th anniversary is in great demand and very few people fly it. It's made out of cardboard. you could make one yourself with some cardboard tubes and some parts from your spare kits box.

The Apogee 1/70 flying Saturn V is now out of production and is getting a premium price. Again, a model made out of cardboard selling for well over $300 IF you can find one. The Saturn 1b is still in stock at double the price of its original release price. However, people DO fly both of these and the detail level is wonderful. But, again, cardboard.

And, don't forget, you can have a lot of fun scratchbuilding your own 1/96 Saturn V for about $300 and thousands of hours of time. Read about my nine year adventure with mine. If my hands weren't full of arthritis, I'd build another one because it was so much fun to do. And I'm still thinking about it. I have the tubes - just need the parts from New Ware in the Czech Republic... and about a years worth of time.

Personally, my favorite kit is still the 1/96 Saturn. It's big and impressive and there's so much you can do with it with detail work. Unfortunately, every time Revell re-releases it, you can tell the age of the molds because the crispness is gone. You can get a much higher detail level from resin. Between New Ware Models and RealSpace Models, you can almost build the entire thing in resin. They'd just have to come out with about another dozen or two parts in resin and you would have the whole thing. It would be solid and an awesome model.

Norman.King
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posted 03-04-2010 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by divemaster:
Even harder is the 1/48 CSM/LM/LES/SLA which is almost becoming the holy grail.
Thanks for all your replies, very informative.

This is my kit and still has two days to run on eBay so we'll see if anyone bids on it although I'm beginning to regret offering it on eBay if it's that hard to find.

By the way, all of the boxes on my kits are in perfect condition.

divemaster
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posted 03-04-2010 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for divemaster   Click Here to Email divemaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's the item number?

Also, the overseas market has been grabbing up a lot of these models because of the lack of value of the dollar. Anything going to the UK is really going at half price. I can't believe how many models that I've shipped overseas in the last month. Filling out those customs forms is a real pain, too.

Norman.King
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posted 03-04-2010 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by divemaster:
What's the item number?

Apollo Kit Item # 290406673586
Shuttle Kit Item # 290405905728

Update: The Shuttle sold in the final minute for £160 (approx $240) - Great pricing guesswork divemaster.

Jay Chladek
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posted 03-04-2010 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wasn't trying to lowball. Big thing is usually I find with eBay sales if you start them out low, it creates a feeding frenzy of sorts. As such, that can drive the prices up to very good levels. Of course, naturally the UK market will create higher prices (even if they are Revell of Germany offerings). Your models appear to be very good samples though as the kits are still bagged and the box arts look good.

By the way, the Revell of Germany Saturn V is currently out again and unlike the Revell USA offerings (featuring the Buzz Aldrin rocket hero art) I don't believe these have Buzz's mug on the box. As such, the availability of the Revell 1/96 Saturn on the market will likely affect the price of yours if you put it up for eBay sale since they are available in Europe (but NOT in the USA due to Revell Monogram offering the Buzz Aldrin marked kits).

divemaster
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posted 03-04-2010 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for divemaster   Click Here to Email divemaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Norman.King:
Update: The Shuttle sold in the final minute for £160 (approx $240) - Great pricing guesswork divemaster.
Wow! I was right on the ol' nosey with my pricing!! Both sold for just about the right amount that I thought.

I'm still pretty accurate when it comes to pricing certain models. I built them for far too long and collected them for far too long.

But that LES/CSM/SLA model....oh, what a dream to have that one again. I think I paid $50 the last time I found one. Those 1/48 molds must have disappeared years ago when everything was shipped over to Germany.

divemaster
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posted 03-04-2010 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for divemaster   Click Here to Email divemaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jay Chladek:
By the way, the Revell of Germany Saturn V is currently out again and unlike the Revell USA offerings (featuring the Buzz Aldrin rocket hero art) I don't believe these have Buzz's mug on the box.
If I'm not mistaken, the Buzz version is the 1/144 version, NOT the 1/96. I have yet to see a 40th anniversary version come directly out for the US market. I've seen the box art, but it was always out of Australia - and it's always pushing the $200 mark, with a sale price of about $185. Still my all time favorite. Worth every dime regardless of what you pay.

Jay Chladek
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posted 03-04-2010 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Correct, Buzz is for the US market only (whatever, they still screwed up the Saturn V decals). Revell of Germany went with something different that was more in keeping with their previous box art.

In my opinion though, in terms of box arts for the 1/96 Saturn V, nothing beats the original box art from the 1960s, which either had an actual picture Apollo 6 or Apollo 8 (I believe it was Apollo 8 as I seem to recall the CSM was a correct Block 2 design) on the cover blasting off into the heavens.

divemaster
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posted 03-04-2010 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for divemaster   Click Here to Email divemaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The sixties box art is here. The 1982 box art is here. That's the one of it blasting off. [kind of]

Finding one from the sixties is a REAL find. I built many of those, too. But there has yet to be an OFFICIAL US release of a 40th anniversary version - Buzz or Buzzless.

and they all have the incorrect paint patterns on the box art from the 500-F. One of my little pet peeves that even slipped by Ron Howard in Apollo 13 and Tom Hanks in From the Earth to the Moon. Just a bugaboo of mine.

And the best Saturn V decals can be bought from Rick Sternbach or New Ware Models. I have bought from both - and both are fascinating. Rick gives you so many, you actually need a high power magnifying glass to see what you're looking at.

And with the exception of the 1/32 CSM [Buzz or de-Buzzed], they're all Block 1 CSM's. RealSpaceModels.com sells a great resin Block 2 replacements for all scales including the Airfix models. Glenn Johnson has always done incredible work.

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