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Topic: What space models would you have signed?
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Moonpaws
Member Posts: 685
From: Lee's summit, MO
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted 05-22-2005 11:36 AM
   
What Saturn V would you get signed? As far as I know my choices are: - Estes model (don't want to build)
- Revell model (don't want to build)
- Space Voyagers (not bad option but limited area for signing)
What do you think? Any other ideas? |
1202 Alarm
Member Posts: 436
From: Switzerland & France
Registered: Nov 2003
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posted 05-22-2005 12:32 PM
The Danbury Mint Saturn V, but not on the model itself, on a custom made stand. That model is just great. |
apollo11lem5
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From: Seminole, Florida, United States
Registered: May 2000
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posted 05-22-2005 05:22 PM
I would go for one of the larger unbuilt sections of the Revell or Estes. Pick a large piece that can be built up later! You can get the sig now and build it when the mood hits you! Good Luck...Don |
divemaster
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From: ridgefield, ct
Registered: May 2002
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posted 05-23-2005 09:08 AM
The problem with the 1/96 scale Revell version [which is the perfect one for signatures], is that the "big white areas" on the stages are made of ill fitting, flexible plastic wraps and not styrene. If you have them signed before building the model, your end result may not be what you want. The 1/144 scale Revell and Airfix versions of the Saturn V are both pretty bad when it comes to accuracy. I'd give the nod to the Airfix version. Naturally, the Estes [and Apogee] Saturns are cardboard. If you don't want to build them yourself, take the previous advice of others as to the best prebuilt models. Or you can take the crazy route, like I did, and scratch build your own. Pefect for signing!Good luck!
Tracy |
divemaster
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From: ridgefield, ct
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posted 05-23-2005 09:11 AM
One last comment: anything smaller than a 1/144 scale version won't leave much room for signing. I think I'm up to 22 signatures on my 1/96 version and there's still plenty of room left for more.Cheerz!
Tracy |
tegwilym
Member Posts: 2331
From: Sturgeon Bay, WI
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 05-24-2005 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by divemaster:
The problem with the 1/96 scale Revell version [which is the perfect one for signatures], is that the "big white areas" on the stages are made of ill fitting, flexible plastic wraps and not styrene.
I agree with that! This is a great model, but I had a lot of trouble also wrapping the sides of the stages around the end pieces. I had to sand down the edges of the plastic parts to get a better fit, but still ended up splitting a small edged of the plastic "wrap" part. Then painting the black roll patters on the ridged pieces was quite another task since masking something like that was pretty challenging too. Definitely a challenging model to build (at least those parts) but looks great once it's done.Tom |
Mr. PIlbeam
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posted 05-27-2005 12:06 PM
I've had my Revell for many years now. Howver, after a few years, the plastic wraps developed pplastic fatigue and have started cracking longitudinally - I think on a line with the perforations. Future builders might consider backing them with some form of adhesive plastic before assembly. |
joe bruce
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From: Spokane, WA U.S.A.
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted 06-11-2005 12:23 AM
I have several of the 1/96th Revell Saturn V kits and started only one. The plastic wrap for the 3 stages have all cracked. I have never seen one of these kits that has not cracked over time. I even saw one at a national modeling convention that had been entered, cracked.I am thinking about checking into plastic plumbing pipe or tubing and see if any comes close to the correct diameter needed and just paint the body after getting the corragated pieces mated to the tube. There are decal sheets out to finish off the markings. As to signing one, building a stage to the rocket and complete it then have it signed. Complete the rest of stack at a later date.
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divemaster
Member Posts: 1376
From: ridgefield, ct
Registered: May 2002
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posted 06-12-2005 08:00 AM
Use ABS tubing by Plastruct. Details and sizing for each stage can be found here.Cheerz!
Tracy |
stsmithva
Member Posts: 1933
From: Fairfax, VA, USA
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 06-26-2008 11:03 PM
I've decided to buy some models- Mercury (capsule or full stack), Gemini, and Apollo (probably all modules together), and perhaps Skylab- to be signed at the ASF event in November. I've just spent about an hour online researching but could anyone recommend specific brands to look for when it comes to quality and price, and then specific dealers who offer them? I believe that Nick Proach creations and Code 3 are the top ones, but if there are others I should know about, please let me know. To add a bit of "WTB" here, if anyone has such models for sale, please let me know. Further, does anyone know if Scott Carpenter has a policy of not signing models, since he signed a limited edition? Thank you very much. Steve |
Rizz
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From: Upcountry, Maui, Hawaii
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 06-27-2008 12:33 AM
If you can get one from Nick that is already completed, you might be able to get it in time.Maybe. Hopefully. He does really beautiful work. Nick made my son a highly detailed 144 scale of the Saturn V and it was delivered at the last hour to Burbank, just in a nick of time, still wet. Scott Carpenter signed the base of the model at SPACEFEST last year. He was very friendly and had a fine sense of humor. Have fun! Rizz |
Jay Chladek
Member Posts: 2272
From: Bellevue, NE, USA
Registered: Aug 2007
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posted 06-29-2008 03:16 AM
Well, I don't know about Scott signing already produced stuff or not. But at a dinner I attended at the local museum in early 2006, I had a partly finished heat shield and retro pack (sans straps) for an Atomic City Mercury capsule that I brought along which I am finishing as Aurora 7. He recognized what it was immediately and marveled at the work I did on the decal stripes. And he was willing to sign the heat shield in a gold pen I provided (saying it was the hardest thing he ever did due to the awkward shape of the shield and the the retropack, but he was a trooper and finished signing it.Unfortunately the model is still on the back burner right now two years later due to other commitments. But I do plan to get it finished here very soon. It may not have the full interior I wanted to do (that is a lot of work in that kit), but if I at least do a very passable job on the exterior I will have succeeded in my efforts. I have thought about getting some of my other models signed, such as a shuttle stack or two that I've done (I've dreamed of having the STS-117 crew sign the 1/72 shuttle stack I did for the Clay Anderson exhibit at the Strategic Air and Space Museum). But all things considered, I will probably just have special bases made and have those signed instead so that I don't run the risk of screwing up the paintjob as I tend to like going for realistic looking finishes rather then desktop appearance. If I were to do a desktop appearance model, they tend to lend themselves to signatures on the model itself better since they are so clean looking otherwise. |
capoetc
Member Posts: 2169
From: McKinney TX (USA)
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 06-29-2008 11:12 AM
Just make sure you consider the "3D items" surcharge that many of the astros charge. The surcharge can be 2-3 times what they charge for signing an 8x10.------------------
John Capobianco
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Rob Sumowski
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From: Macon, Georgia
Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 07-01-2008 08:48 AM
I'd suggest you might also consider mahogany models. I've gotten each of mine signed in paint pen and they've held up very well. My Apollo 8 crew-signed mahogany Saturn V is one of my collection's holy grails. Just an idea.
Rob |
stsmithva
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From: Fairfax, VA, USA
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 07-01-2008 09:27 AM
Thank you very much for your advice. Those 3D prices are nasty- looks like I won't be getting a Gemini capsule signed by Aldrin and then Lovell at KSC in November. I'll continue my hunt for good-quality models I can afford. Fortunately I've got a few months. Steve |
LCDR Scott Schneeweis
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posted 07-01-2008 10:59 AM
Kim Poor has either a 1/96 or 1/144 Saturn V that he brings to all the signings which I have seen in his shop...its getting pretty well populated with ink..------------------
Scott Schneeweis
http://www.SPACEAHOLIC.com/ |
tegwilym
Member Posts: 2331
From: Sturgeon Bay, WI
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 07-01-2008 01:56 PM
This is a nice and affordable model that works for signing with a sharpie pen.For a "toy" this one is quite nice. Sturdy and if you ignore the LM, the proportions and details of this model are all good too. Tom
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Gilbert
Member Posts: 1328
From: Carrollton, GA USA
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 07-01-2008 03:52 PM
Tom, I agree. The "Ultimate" Saturn V you mention above is marketed as a toy, but for the money it's a very nice and impressive display piece. It's about 1/144th scale I think. |
Jay Chladek
Member Posts: 2272
From: Bellevue, NE, USA
Registered: Aug 2007
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posted 07-01-2008 05:02 PM
It is 1/144 scale. The producers based it on the dimensions and features of the Monogram Saturn V rocket kit (although they did correct the proportions of the LM garage and the CSM at least). I have one and while the paintjob isn't 100% perfect (they did screw up the roll pattern on the transition from the S-2 to the S-IVB), to me it looks like a nice replica of a Saturn V and better then some desktop models I've seen. |
Machodoc
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From: DE
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 07-23-2008 12:01 AM
I've got multiple autographs on my Nick Proach 1/144 Saturn V and my 1/24 Gemini (the Gemini autos are on the white equipment module sections).Both Carpenter and Schirra signed my 148 scale Nick Proach Atlas/Mercury stack and I've got multiple Gemini autographs on my 1/48 Gemini/Titan stack as well. I've also got multiple Apollo autographs on the base of my Franklin Mint LM. The M base is octagonal and is black and the silver sharpie autographs make a great contrast! I thought about taking the third stage from my 1/48 Nick Proach Saturn V model for autographs, but decided to leave that big boy pristine. |
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