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posted 10-31-2020 05:02 AM               

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I requested the producer of this coin (spacecoins.com) of what the visible metal is made of. As stated it's made of other "space coins" (obviously mostly Winco ones), melted down and fit into this medal. Thus it's barely to say how much of "flown" material is really in this coin.

Neat idea but just using other space coins for that, little poor. Would have been nice to have real hardware with provenance or information which coins at least have been used.

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posted 10-31-2020 08:18 PM               

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Thanks, Chris. Shoot, I didn't think to ask that. Yeah, it does take a little of my thrill out of it.

But it is still a great looking piece (at least on the front with the metal parts). The back could have had a better design, in my opinion.

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posted 11-01-2020 04:37 AM               

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Well, I do not want to down scale or to blame that coin. It's a great design and for sure not easy to achieve something like that. But also using blended space coins for doing another blended space coin again is for me some loss of the artifacts' origin.

Just be be fair. I love that coin and I would take it as well, but I can also have all Winco medals framed and hang up and the result would be the same.

By the way one note: On the Winco medals it's just stated that metal flown on Apollo missions is included. So these medals do not have a specific mission related metal in the melting. Thus, if mainly Winco coins have been used plus other medals as well, there is no dedicated assignment to each mission in the new Apollo coin given. Each section in the coin has then also just metal flown on Apollo missions and no dedicated hardware-metal taken from the mission itself?

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posted 11-03-2020 08:06 AM               

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As the producer of this medal I want to clarify some things.

It is true that as "base material" other flown medals were used (over 250). And no, we didn't simply used "any" Winco medals where you don't know what Apollo mission material was used. For example, for Apollo 11 we used dozens of Apollo 11 MFA medals, for Apollo 12 we used several of Moonpans' flown medals, for Apollo 13 we used several Franklin Mint silver sets, etc.

In addition to that flown kapton foil of the Apollo 11-17 missions were used. Each kapton foil in the right section, so flown Apollo 15 katpon foil was used in the Apollo 15 section and so on.

I hope that clarifies. Thank you — Angelika

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posted 11-03-2020 11:59 AM            

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Thanks Angelika.

I have two of the previous shuttle coins and nearly decided to get this. The reason I haven't so far is because I found the logic behind it a bit weird. I could have easily gone for the six landing missions. Or I could easily have gone for the nine lunar circumnavigations.

But seven? Just the landing attempts. It doesn't seem like a very logical category to me. Still, it's a lovely piece of work so if I’m going to change my mind, I guess I better get on with it.

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posted 11-03-2020 02:24 PM               

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I somehow have a not good feeling that for example dozens of Apollo 11 MFAs have been used or even destroyed just to create a new coin.

Although the mintage of these were quite high, nevertheless as already said, it gives that second hand feeling. Also the statement that Kapton was used raises the question how much if it? A big portion or just a homeopathic amount like one peppercorn which dissapears in the soup?

As I said, I do not want to downscale the effort for creating and sharing that coin with us. But this also gives room for a controverse discussion (thats why cS is for).

Also to share what was used as flown metal gives more transparency (COA for example with listed materials used) then just make a revelation in consequence.

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posted 11-03-2020 07:07 PM               

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The central concept of the coin is a good one but the execution of the idea seems a bit "potluck," particularly contrasted to the price of $125 per coin.

I'm wishing that the final product could have been closer to the ideal.

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