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Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-31-2026 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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NASA to declare 'America Has Returned' with Moon Base plaque

NASA has revealed the first component of its Moon Base to be delivered with the next U.S. astronauts to step foot on the lunar surface.

The space agency on Friday (Aug. 28) debuted the commemorative plaque that will be mounted to the "cornerstone" of its planned, human-tended installation at the moon's south pole. The aluminum plate made its debut during a visit by President Donald Trump to Mission Control at NASA's Johnson Space Center.

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posted 09-02-2026 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hbw60   Click Here to Email hbw60     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leaving politics aside, I think this is an incredibly tasteless and pathetic plaque. Jared Isaacman has had a somewhat tense relationship with the president, and this reeks of political pandering. It's nothing but a billionaire swearing fealty to another billionaire, hoping to maintain his high-ranking status.

And it's another symbol of my disdain for the way that space has become the taxpayer-funded playground of the rich, not the frontier of exploration it once was.

It's impossible not to compare this plaque to the one flown on Apollo 11. Eagle's plaque bore no flags. It didn't boast about national superiority. It didn't credit the achievement of the moon landing to any individual person. It was simple. It was elegant. It celebrated the perseverance and ingenuity of the human species throughout history, not just the Americans of 1969. And that's why almost 60 years later, it still resonates.

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posted 09-02-2026 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well financed entities (whether they be corporations/billionares or nations) are the only way humanity is going to establish an enduring presence is Cislunar space and beyond. Their under lying motivation for doing so (economic, political and military competition) are essential enablers.

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posted 09-02-2026 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Headshot   Click Here to Email Headshot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder how soon replicas will go on sale ... and who will get the profits?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-02-2026 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hbw60:
Eagle's plaque bore no flags. It didn't boast about national superiority. It didn't credit the achievement of the moon landing to any individual person.
Not at first. The original vision of the plaque had the American flag at its center and it was painted red, white and blue. It was Robert Gilruth who suggested the two hemispheres in place of the flag.

The original version also only had the crew's signatures. It was Nixon, himself, who added his name to the plaque as just one more way in which he was trying to have his name — and not Kennedy's — associated with the moon landing. (Nixon also tried to add "Under God" to the wording of the plaque, but it was too late to make the change.)

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posted 09-02-2026 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oly   Click Here to Email oly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Artemis IV is currently planned to launch in early 2028. There are a lot of milestones needed to be met before this can happen if the mission meets its currently stated objectives.

One such objective is landing people on the Moon and conducting an EVA, which requires a spacesuit.

Since Isaacman came on as the latest NASA administrator, ways of "streamlining" the Artemis program in an effort to get back to the Moon have been made in the form of cutting programs and "streamlining" the construction of the SLS and Orion.

Now, a news story that came out today details how NASA has decided to develop a "cheaper" sortie suit that is lighter and simpler than the suit that has been under development.

Artemis IV also requires a vehicle to land on the Moon. Blue Origin has experienced a setback at their launch pad, and SpaceX still have a shopping list of goals that need to be achieved before early 2028 to get their Lunar Landers in a position ready to carry out the Artemis IV mission.

Shifting goalposts and cutting corners could be one way to look at the current state of play. Between the launch of Artemis II and Artemis IV, how many technical or design changes will be made that create situations that cause a delay in the planned launch date?

Will the suit that astronauts wear on the Artemis IV mission ever be tested in space before Artemis IV, or even fly on Artemis III for evaluation and testing? Will Blue Origin or SpaceX get their landers ready on time and carry out testing in LEO, including spacesuit integration tests of a suit that does not exist as of today?

Chances are Artemis IV will be delayed, possibly past the next US election. I see the press event to showcase this "Moon Base Plaque" as a premature publicity event. There will be no Moon Base, and possibly nothing left behind to mount the plaque on Artemis IV.

There will probably be another U.S. President's signature needed for this plaque and a new layout of the goalposts.

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posted 09-03-2026 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Certainly seems like 2028 is moving out of reach for IV (based on reasons laid out in the previous post).

A key objective for the US is to arrive at Shackleton first in order to establish norms/standards for claiming in-situ resources, and to limit declaration of a Chinese "safety" zone precluding US prime mover advantage on Shackleton's strategically valuable high ground. If 2028 is formally acknowledged as unachievable, one could imagine an amended version of the plaque mounted on a US robotic scientific mission to the same destination as a placeholder pending US manned return.

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