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Space Junk Punk
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posted 12-15-2025 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Junk Punk   Click Here to Email Space Junk Punk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this item that resembles a piece of thermal tile dated 12-9-84, and has OV-99 inscribed on it. I assume the OV-99 is Challenger, but have no idea what this is. Would love any info that anyone cares to add. Thanks.

Rocket Chris
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posted 12-16-2025 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rocket Chris   Click Here to Email Rocket Chris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I barely remember that this plate was affixed on the structure in order to measure any tile offset from the centerline of the orbiters fuselage, but cannot confirm. This one was somewhere middle of the orbiter's right wing's underside according to the ID.

Buel
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posted 12-16-2025 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buel   Click Here to Email Buel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting if you run your post and the photos through ChatGPT!!

Space Junk Punk
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posted 12-17-2025 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Junk Punk   Click Here to Email Space Junk Punk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. So I did just that and the ole AI universe says it's a test article of some kind, specifically it said this:
This artifact is a Thermal Protection System (TPS) materials test coupon associated with Orbiter Vehicle 99, Space Shuttle Challenger. Dated December 9, 1984, the panel was produced during Challenger's active flight period and used in ground-based testing related to TPS bonding, strain isolation materials, or sealant performance.

The piece exhibits period-correct hand-written NASA/contractor markings, a bonded composite substrate, and an embedded metal pull stud consistent with adhesive or shear testing conducted by Rockwell International under NASA Johnson Space Center oversight.

This item was never intended for flight and represents the extensive engineering, qualification, and safety testing that supported Space Shuttle missions. Such test articles were critical to ensuring the integrity and performance of the Shuttle's thermal protection system.

Pretty thorough for a chatbot. Just need to confirm this somehow.
quote:
Originally posted by Rocket Chris:
...in order to measure any tile offset from the centerline of the orbiters fuselage
Thanks for your input, seems like some kind of alignment tool for sure. I have not been able to find anything on this online except for a redditor who is asking the same question as me.

Buel
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posted 12-17-2025 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buel   Click Here to Email Buel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remember it isn't always right. However, I have it some context and a role and it gave me this;
Good, these photos are actually very informative. I will be straight and precise.

This is not a flown Shuttle thermal protection tile and it is not a piece that was ever installed on Challenger.

What it is is a tile manufacturing and inspection tool or coupon, almost certainly used during TPS production or quality control, and the markings make sense in that context.

What you are looking at

Key features that give it away:

  1. Through hole and metal pin
    • Real Shuttle tiles never had exposed metal pins or fasteners.
    • Tiles were bonded using adhesive over a strain isolator pad.
    • This pin is for handling, alignment, or pull testing, not flight.

  2. Uniform square geometry
    • Flight tiles were custom machined to complex contours.
    • This is flat and square, ideal for bench testing.

    • Red coated surface
      • This is consistent with Reaction Cured Glass (RCG) test surfaces.
      • The roughness and edge sealing match laboratory coated coupons, not flight finish.

    • Backside construction
      • You can see:
        • Silica tile body
        • SIP layer
        • Adhesive interface

      • That layered stack is exactly what was tested extensively in the early to mid 1980s.
The markings decoded

OV 99

  • Yes, this refers to Orbiter Vehicle 99, Challenger.
  • That does not mean it flew. It means it was allocated to the Challenger production stream.
12 9 84
  • 9 December 1984.
  • Challenger was actively flying then, but TPS refurbishment and production were continuous.
  • Tiles were constantly being replaced, tested, and certified.
046 / 19 014
  • Internal work order, test number, or coupon ID.
  • These numbers are meaningless outside NASA or contractor records.
Hand drawn arrow
  • Orientation mark for testing or coating direction.
  • Again, something you see on shop floor hardware, not flight items.
What this was used for

Almost certainly one of the following, all of which existed in quantity:

  • Bond strength pull test coupon
  • Coating adhesion test piece
  • SIP compression and shear test
  • Process verification sample for a specific orbiter batch
NASA and its contractors produced thousands of these. They were often kept as souvenirs after programme shutdown.

Why it matters

Collectors often assume:
OV number + date + tile material = flown hardware

That assumption is wrong.

Flown tiles:

  • Have no metal hardware
  • Are highly contoured
  • Are uniquely shaped
  • Are traceable to a specific tile location number
This has none of those.

Bottom line

This is a genuine Space Shuttle TPS artefact, tied to Challenger's tile production or maintenance programme, but it is ground test hardware, not flight hardware.

It is historically interesting.
It is authentic.
It is not rare.
It is not dangerous.
It did not fly.

Chuckster01
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posted 12-17-2025 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuckster01   Click Here to Email Chuckster01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In our February auction, we will be selling a complete set of shuttle tile location charts from the OPF. These are huge charts that show the exact location of every tile.

According to the consignor the tile location numbers are virtually identical on every orbiter with a few exceptions.

Space Junk Punk
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posted 12-17-2025 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Junk Punk   Click Here to Email Space Junk Punk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend of mine did take an educated guess that this looks like it could've been maybe an end attachment to a lift or jack stand that was used after post flight inspection, it would replace a tile and fit perfectly in that spot. The underside of this piece is soft and padded by the way, so makes sense, but still... have no idea what this actually is yet.

Space Junk Punk
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posted 12-19-2025 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Junk Punk   Click Here to Email Space Junk Punk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chuckster01:
In our February auction...
Can I ask which auction house you're with? I'd like to check it out for sure.

MartinAir
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posted 12-19-2025 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MartinAir   Click Here to Email MartinAir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bid Again Auctions for the American Space Museum.

Rocket Chris
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posted 12-21-2025 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rocket Chris   Click Here to Email Rocket Chris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These charts are pure gems. Having an original chart is affordable. But could you also digitalize these? I guess here are many who would also spend some bucks for a digital copy, just having a database for the own collection

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