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"In an extremely unusual move, the Smithsonian allowed us to remove several parts from [shuttle] Discovery at the National Air and Space Museum to support our payload installation," Dennis Jenkins, the CSC's project director for Endeavour's future display, said.
So what did they have to remove from Discovery to open up Endeavour?

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From what I understand, the parts removed from Discovery's payload bay were attach points to support the payloads being installed in Endeavour's bay.

Here are two new photos shared by Dennis Jenkins:

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Are visitors still allowed to visit and view Endeavour? It said in the article it will reopen in 2017; that's a long time from now!

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The article says that Endeavour will go off public display in (late) 2017, to be mated with its boosters and external tank and then be taken vertical inside the new Oschin Air and Space Center, set to open in 2018.

Until then, Endeavour remains open to public visitors inside the Oschin pavilion.

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The tunnel adapter and truss assembly has been installed in Endeavour's payload bay (photos courtesy Dennis Jenkins):

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Will Endeavour's payload will be configure as it was during the STS-118 mission; also, are there plans to attach the dummy-RMS, i.e., something like Atlantis?

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The forward payload bay is being configured as it was on STS-118.

The Canadarm, from what I understand, will be installed on its sill.

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I'm a little baffled by this installation, so clearly I've missed something and probably about to ask a stupid question...

If the ultimate intent is to mount the shuttle stack vertically for display, with the payload bay doors closed, what's the point of installing all this hardware where nobody will ever see it again? Wouldn't it be better to have the Spacehab as a separate exhibit at the museum?

If they plan to display it vertically with the payload bay doors open, wouldn't that be odd? Unless they're planning a mockup of the Rotating Service Structure around that area?

Anyway hopefully I've just missed some key information that clears all this up.

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Endeavour will be displayed vertically with one payload bay door open and one door closed.

As stated in its name, the California Science Center is not a museum, it is an educational institution. Their intention is to use Endeavour's display to teach about all aspects of the space shuttle's flight and use. So while it may not be a historically accurate configuration, the exhibit will offer a more complete view of the space transportation system.

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The museum versus educational institution is an interesting distinction. I've been hesitant to post about it, but I'm not a huge fan of the display plan. Primarily becuase the orbiter was never in that configuration, but also it would be nice for the terrestrial orbiter fleet to represent all mission phases. With flight and landing represented in NYC, at KSC, and at the Smithsonian (and even cross country 'transit phase' being represented at JSC), I was excited about a unique 'launch display' in California.

There wasn't a more impressive and glorious sight than the full orbiter stack. Count me on the side that wishes it would be historically accurate. As others have said, it's easy to represent the payload bay in separate displays, thus completing the educational aspect.

But what the heck... I'm sure in the end it will be a beautiful display.

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I echo a few thoughts on here as well. While I am sure the final display will be awesome, it is a rather odd configuration. If your desire is to educate, having the Spacehab module separately and allowing people inside would have been highly educational (and fun!).

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The California Science Center owns two flown Spacehab modules, both donated by Astrotech at the end of the space shuttle program.

The module placed inside Endeavour is empty; the module on display next to the orbiter is outfitted with lockers and equipment support hardware as it last flew on STS-118.

You cannot go inside the module, but you can view inside.

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The replica Canadarm robotic arm has been installed in Endeavour's payload bay (photos courtesy Dennis Jenkins):

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Space shuttle Endeavour doors shut after cargo loaded for launch-like display (photos)

Three weeks after they were opened for the first time in three years, space shuttle Endeavour's cargo bay doors were closed on Tuesday (Oct. 21) to await the next phase of the retired NASA winged orbiter's museum display.

The California Science Center (CSC) in Los Angeles successfully closed out its "Go for Payload" activities by again sealing the shuttle's 60-foot-long (18-meter) bay doors that were designed to be opened and closed only in space. Until one of the doors is next opened in 2018, they will hide from view the reason they were briefly opened now — Endeavour's newly-added payload.

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A couple of unique videos of the payload bay ops, courtesy David Knight:

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NASA's last space shuttle external tank to complete Endeavour L.A. exhibit

It's a sight no one thought possible again: a complete NASA space shuttle – the winged orbiter, twin rocket boosters and a massive external tank, all authentic hardware – standing vertical as if the vehicle was about to blast off for space.

But come 2018, that's exactly what the California Science Center will be able to display, thanks to a newly-revealed agreement by NASA to donate its last remaining fuel tank built to launch the space shuttle.

"The ability to preserve an entire stack of flight hardware will make the [center's new] Samuel Oschin Air and Space Center an even more compelling educational experience," said Jeffrey Rudolph, president and CEO of the California Science Center, in an interview with collectSPACE. "It will allow future generations to experience and understand the science and engineering of the space shuttle."

The orange-brown tank, which will be transported by barge from New Orleans to California via the Panama Canal and then moved overland through the streets of Los Angeles, will be stacked with NASA's retired orbiter Endeavour and a pair of boosters that were obtained earlier.

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Anyone else find it rather peculiar that this delicate vertical display is being erected in one of the most geologically unstable parts of the country?

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It isn't that delicate: keep in mind the stresses the stack had to endure during launch. Here's a quote from Dennis Jenkins about the benefits of using a real tank over a replica that didn't make it into the story:
"The more we delved into engineering the vertical stack using replica parts, the more we realized it was going to be a huge engineering challenge to design and, even more importantly, verify the load paths would meet all of the seismic requirements and correctly support Endeavour."

"As we discussed it with our building engineer and engineers from Boeing it became obvious that using a complete flight hardware stack would simplify the verification effort since NASA already knew the loads all of the vehicle components were certified for. As long as the seismic requirements were completely enveloped by the certified flight loads, we were good."

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Makes a lot of sense to me, more vibration and loads going up hill than during an seismic event. Understand that the supports and how it connects to the earth is a big factor, but that can be designed in by the Civil Engineers based on the mass they have to deal with.

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I'm really glad to see that ET find a home. Some things can stand a certain amount of weathering and cleaning but I'm not sure how well it would clean 20 years worth of bird droppings off without damaging the foam if it sat outside.

I seem to recall reading somewhere as well that the exhibit or exhibit building was going to be seismically isolated to eliminate or seriously reduce any possible shaking.

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Thanks to cS member MOL (Robert) for these photos, which show the newer concept model for the Oschin Air and Space Center, now on display at the California Science Center (the center tells me that the model is out of date, but is better than what previously was shown).

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Has there been any kind of news or movement on the exhibit? If they still want to open in 2018 they'll have to start construction in the next few months.

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At last update (October), construction of the Oschin Air and Space Center was still on schedule to begin next year.

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Three Nights, Three Days: Endeavour's Journey Through Los Angeles

"Three Nights, Three Days: Endeavour's Journey Through Los Angeles" chronicles the feat of engineering required to transport the retired Space Shuttle Endeavour throughout the streets of Los Angeles in 2012 when the California Science Center in Los Angeles won the bid to become the shuttle's new home. The documentary film follows the shuttle's final journey to its permanent home at the Science Center's Samuel Oschin Space Shuttle Endeavour Display Pavilion, where it will inspire future generations of scientists, innovators and engineers.

The 23-minute documentary by director Paul Bozymowski takes a behind-the-scenes look at the monumental feat of moving a 150,000-pound national treasure through 14 miles of urban, public streets, During its 68-hour journey through mostly underserved neighborhoods, more than a million people lined Endeavour's route, uniting communities, re-igniting an interest in space exploration and motivating a new generation of students to pursue science learning.

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NASA's last space shuttle external tank to cross oceans, L.A. streets for display

NASA's last surviving external tank built to launch the space shuttle is about to embark on its final mission, but instead of rocketing to orbit, the fuel tank will travel by road and ocean to join a retired orbiter on display.

The California Science Center, which last May announced it was receiving NASA's External Tank 94 (ET-94) to mate with the space shuttle Endeavour for a new vertical launch pad-like exhibit to open in 2019, has now set the route and dates for the orange-brown tank's move from New Orleans to Los Angeles.

The journey, which will see the external tank pass through the Panama Canal and navigate the streets of L.A., comes almost three and a half years after Endeavour arrived atop a NASA jumbo jet and completed a similar road trip to the Science Center.

"It is another really significant move and it is another really significant piece of the shuttle," Jeff Rudolph, the Science Center's president and CEO, said in an exclusive interview with collectSPACE. "It's an incredibly historic artifact, being the last of its kind."

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Samsung and WeVR produced a VR "flyover" of space shuttle Endeavour's payload bay for both GearVR and browser playback.
A new virtual reality experience has been released as part of the ongoing EndeaVR Project. All-volunteer Hollywood production teams are capturing various views and aspects of the space shuttle Endeavour using state-of-the-art VR camera and post-production technologies.

The new clip was produced by WeVR and is now available on Samsung’s MilkVR site for playback in GearVR headsets. The clip will also play in 2D with most browsers such as Chrome.

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Last NASA space shuttle external tank set for LA to L.A. sea voyage

A last-of-its-kind, very large artifact from NASA's space shuttle program is set to leave New Orleans this week on an almost 40-day ocean voyage to Los Angeles via the Panama Canal.

The remaining external tank built to fuel a space shuttle's launch into Earth orbit was rolled down a one mile-long (1.6 km) road and onto a barge on Sunday (April 10), two days ahead of its scheduled departure from NASA's Michoud Assembly Facility in Louisiana.

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A few aerial photos via the Michoud Assembly Facility:

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Still very excited to see this display progressing. Where will they actually be keeping the ET until the exhibit is ready? The Endeavour pavilion doesn't seem large enough in photos.

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Displaying with a payload bay door open is bizarre. I understand the reasoning behind it, but I remain unconvinced. I'll just have to wait and see it in person, but I am thrilled that we'll get to see a stack on permanent display.

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Where will they actually be keeping the ET until the exhibit is ready?
ET-94 will be parked outside of the science center, to the north of the pavilion where Endeavour is now. There will be a viewing area where the public will be able to stand to view the tank and watch as its hardware is reinstalled and other repairs are carried out.

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That's a nice touch.

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Are they still going to use the SRBs from KSC that were trucked out to Dryden at the time now Armstrong?

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News about the solid rocket boosters is expected later this year. The science center still has a year or more before they need to be delivered to Los Angeles.

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Last flight-qualified space shuttle external tank sets sail for California museum

NASA's last-existing, built-for-flight space shuttle external tank was launched Tuesday (Apr. 12) on a 40-day sea voyage from New Orleans to Los Angeles, 35 years to the day after the first such tank fueled the maiden flight of the iconic winged spacecraft.

Secured atop an open-air, flatbed barge, the 154-foot-long (47 m) orange-brown tank left the dock at NASA's Michoud Assembly Facility in Louisiana, beginning its journey to the California Science Center for display with the retired space shuttle Endeavour.

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ET-94 sets sail: NASA's last space shuttle external tank leaves NOLA

"Today is a milestone in history for Michoud and also for the space shuttle program. We bid farewell to NASA's last flight-certified external tank," said Bobby Watkins, director of the Michoud Assembly Facility. "It's hard to say goodbye but we know it is receiving the proper recognition by going to the California Science Center."

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Last flight-qualified space shuttle external tank crosses Panama Canal

A giant space shuttle fuel tank made for an unusual sight Monday (April 25) at the Panama Canal.

The 154-foot-long (47 meter) external tank, riding atop an uncovered flatbed barge, entered the famous waterway on its journey to the California Science Center in Los Angeles, where will be displayed with NASA's retired space shuttle Endeavour.

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Crossing oceans: Photos show shuttle external tank at Panama Canal

The fifth space shuttle external tank to cross the Panama Canal – and the first to do so on an open-air barge — ET-94 is scheduled to take another 17 to 20 days to arrive at Marina del Rey in California.

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I thought they had only delivered two ET to VAFB before it was mothballed. Or is this the fifth time a tank has used the Panama Locks?

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From a thread on final space shuttle external tanks' status -
According to Space Shuttle Flight Info, by Lockheed Martin, January 1997, there were four tanks delivered to Vandenberg before they were re-delivered to KSC: ET-23, ET-27, ET-33 and ET-34; ET-33 was delivered to VAFB after January 1986.

ET-23 was used on STS-27R; ET-27 on STS-34; ET-33 on STS-36; and ET-34 on the following flight, STS-31R.

The flights they all wound up seem to be heavy cargo flights...

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Or is this the fifth time a tank has used the Panama Locks?
This is the ninth time an external tank transited the canal. Four previous tanks traveled to and from Vandenberg Air Force Base, accounting for the earlier eight crosses. From our article:
Four previous external tanks, ETs 23, 27, 33 and 34, traveled by covered barge to California in the early 1980s, when plans existed for a shuttle launch pad at Vandenberg Air Force Base.
ET-23 flew on STS-27; ET-27 on STS-34; ET-33 on STS-36; and ET-34 on STS-31.

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Space shuttle external tank bound for L.A. museum plays role in sea rescue

The crew of a sunken fishing boat has a space shuttle external tank to thank for their rescue.

Three Americans and one Mexican were on the Maximus, a charter fishing boat, when it sank off the coast of Baja California on Thursday (May 12). Fortunately, its crew was able to make it safely onto a life raft to await the next ship to come along and pluck them out of the Pacific Ocean.

As it just so happened, that next vessel was the Shannon Dann, the towboat transporting NASA's last existing flight-qualified space shuttle external tank (ET) for the California Science Center.


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