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Topic: Apollo 7 Mission Control team identification?
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NeilPearson
Member Posts: 170
From: UK
Registered: May 2013
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posted 07-21-2019 09:00 AM
   
I have this Gene Kranz signed photograph, annotated with "Apollo VII team", in my collection.Besides some obvious members of Mission Control, such as Kranz, my knowledge is limited so I'm hoping some of you can help me to put names (and maybe roles) to the faces on the photo please? Clicking the image will open it at full size. Thanks in advance.  Based on responses and suggestions so far, we have:
- Steve Bales (GUIDO, Shift 2)
- Tom Weichel (RETRO, Shift 2)
- Richard "Dick" T. Brown (Communications, Vehicle Systems SSR)
- Larry Keyser (Operations & Procedures, Shift 2)
- James "Jim" Joki (TELMU/EMU for Armstrong on Apollo 11)
- William "Clint" Burton (EECOM, Shift 2)
- Jay Green (FIDO, Shift 2)
- Neil Hutchinson (CSM GNC)
- John "Jack" Kamman (CSM GNC, Shift 2)
- Tommy Holloway (FAO, Shift 2)
- Charles "Chuck" Stough (FAO, Shift 1?)
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- John "Jack" Riley (PAO, Shift 2)
- Perry Ealick (AFD, Shift 2)
- George Ojalehto (Network Controller, Shift 2)
- Ron Evans (CAPCOM, Shift 2)
- John Zieglschmid, MD (Flight Surgeon, Shift 2)
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MOL
Member Posts: 158
From: Los Angeles, CA
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 07-21-2019 11:18 AM
Number 1 is Steve Bales. Number 21 is Ron Evans.Number 7 is Jay Green. Number 12 is Chuck Stough. Chuck was my first boss at NASA JSC when I started 30 years ago this week. He was FAO (flight activities officer) for many Apollo flights. |
NeilPearson
Member Posts: 170
From: UK
Registered: May 2013
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posted 07-21-2019 12:02 PM
Thanks! That's a great start to my quest.Does anyone know of a resource that lists the members of each of the teams that worked each mission? |
minipci
Member Posts: 414
From: London, UK
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 07-21-2019 03:03 PM
Is #2 Bill Moon? |
Go4Launch
Member Posts: 562
From: Seminole, Fla.
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 07-28-2019 12:54 PM
I think #22 is flight surgeon Dr. Charles Berry. |
Fra Mauro
Member Posts: 1739
From: Bethpage, N.Y.
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 07-28-2019 02:57 PM
#8 Sy Liebergot? |
cmj1964
Member Posts: 11
From: Broomfield, Colorado, USA
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted 08-05-2019 10:36 AM
#2 is not Bill Moon, #9 is John "Jack" Kamman, and #11 is Tommy Holloway. I copied the Apollo 7 MCC/MOCR manning list from the Apollo Program Flight Operations 35th anniversary reunion document and uploaded it here. |
NeilPearson
Member Posts: 170
From: UK
Registered: May 2013
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posted 08-05-2019 11:11 AM
That's a great document, thank you! Maybe it will jog some memories.So from the names offered up so far, it seems likely that we are looking specifically at a photograph of Apollo 7 "Shift 2". Going against that theory, however, is that Charles Berry (Flight Surgeon) is not listed as being on any of the three Apollo 7 teams, Charles (Chuck) Stough is down as Shift 1 and Sy Liebergot was, I believe, EECOM for Apollo 8-15. Again, thanks for the responses so far. |
Buel
Member Posts: 800
From: UK
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 08-05-2019 11:46 AM
Please post who you are missing and I’ll see what I can do.... |
NeilPearson
Member Posts: 170
From: UK
Registered: May 2013
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posted 08-05-2019 11:56 AM
The names offered so far are listed at the bottom of my initial post. Thanks. |
Buel
Member Posts: 800
From: UK
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 08-06-2019 09:12 AM
Apollo PAO Doug Ward offered this;I recognize many of the people in the Apollo 7 team photo, but can add only the following to the identifications: 4 is Larry Keyser, AFD; I think 13 is Larry Armstrong, Inco; 18 is Jack Riley, PAO and 22 is John Zieglschmid, MD (not Charles Berry). |
Cozmosis22
Member Posts: 1105
From: Texas * Earth
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted 08-06-2019 10:00 AM
Wow, that's a lot of white shirts and skinny ties in one room. A single person wearing his coat and one guy in his Air Force uniform. Only two of them, Sy included, wearing colorful shirts with no ties. About half of them have black rim eyeglasses. Quite a group of brainpower there. Good luck in your quest Neil. |
NeilPearson
Member Posts: 170
From: UK
Registered: May 2013
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posted 08-06-2019 10:11 AM
Yes, there's certainly a fashion trend!
There was a question mark against Sy Liebergot (and also because I thought he was EECOM for 8-15) but you think it's him too? quote:
Originally posted by Buel:
Apollo PAO Doug Ward offered this...
Thank you and please pass on my thanks to Mr Ward.The Apollo 7 manning document lists Larry Keyser as "Operations and Procedures", with Perry Ealick as AFD, so I've put a question mark against that for the moment and "Larry" Armstrong isn't listed so I've done the same for now. |
Fra Mauro
Member Posts: 1739
From: Bethpage, N.Y.
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 08-06-2019 03:21 PM
#10--Dr. Charles Berry |
MOL
Member Posts: 158
From: Los Angeles, CA
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 08-08-2019 09:13 PM
Since you just mentioned his name, it helped jog my memory. Number 19 in fact is Perry Ealick. He was still working at JSC in the 1990's when I was there. |
Buel
Member Posts: 800
From: UK
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 08-19-2019 04:24 PM
Jerry Bostick offers this; 2. Tom Weichel, RETRO, 6. Clint Burton, EECOM, 8. NOT Liebergot. Neil Hutchinson, Guidance Officer, who would come unglued if you thought he was Liebergot! |
NeilPearson
Member Posts: 170
From: UK
Registered: May 2013
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posted 08-19-2019 05:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Buel:
Jerry Bostick offers this
Thanks again for going out of your way to help! Neil Hutchinson isn’t on the Apollo 7 Flight Control Manning document but I found a NASA Oral History transcript from an interview he did in 2000. Interestingly he mentions that he was initially a GUIDO but switched to a CSM GNC and was basically learning the ropes on Apollo 7 before assuming the role on Apollo 8 and 9. I decided to go to work in the Command and Service Module Branch and to become a GNC [guidance, navigation and control officer]... So I changed organizations. I went from the Flight Dynamics Branch in flight operations to the Systems Branch that was being run by Arnie Aldrich at the time. I got involved with that. I spent Apollo 7 and 8 and 9, not much on 7, I was really just trying to learn the whole scene, but I did do Apollo 8 and 9. |
Buel
Member Posts: 800
From: UK
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 08-20-2019 10:19 AM
Wow. Isn’t it interesting how there are still fascinating little details like these that still come out after all these years? |
Buel
Member Posts: 800
From: UK
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 08-20-2019 03:42 PM
Ed Fendell offers this; 13 is Amrstrong Procedures
3 is Dick Brown INCO
5 is Jim Joki Telemu
20 is George Ojaleto NetworkI do not know who 10 is, but it is not Dr. Berry. Dutch von Ehrenfried has been on; With regard to the photo:
3 - don't know
10 is not Dr. Berry
20 is George O'jaletto
14-18 are probably network guys; maybe Air Force. However, he’s given me a contact who might know. Watch this space... |
NeilPearson
Member Posts: 170
From: UK
Registered: May 2013
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posted 08-21-2019 06:48 AM
Thank you, again, for more names to research! I've just found a large document on Apollo Flight Controller assignments, which is proving useful for cross referencing.It seems that Richard "Dick" T. Brown was assigned to Communications in the Vehicle Systems SSR for Apollo 7 but was INCO for 9, 10 and 11. Jim Joki is variously noted as being assigned to monitor Neil Armstrong as an extravehicular mobility unit (EMU) flight controller on Apollo 11 but I can't find reference to him for Apollo 7. |
Buel
Member Posts: 800
From: UK
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 08-25-2019 04:53 PM
Gerry Griffin offers #13 is not Larry Armstrong. He is checking on some others. |
Marc05A
Member Posts: 40
From: Reims, France
Registered: May 2009
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posted 09-02-2019 07:57 AM
There is another picture of the Apollo 7 flight control team on the Manned Space Ops Association website.Looks like Gerry Griffin Gold team. I'm quite surprised to see Sy Liebergot on this picture, because he is not listed as an Apollo 7 EECOM in the flight controllers assignment document. |
Buel
Member Posts: 800
From: UK
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 09-29-2019 01:12 PM
I sent the photo to Gerry Griffin and numbered the guys in it, as below. He's asked around and came back with this: Here’s what I have so far, and it's still being circulated! - Stewart Davis (FIDO)
- Jim Payne (RETRO)
- Sy Liebergot (SPAN)
- Charlie Dumis (EECOM)
- Gran Paules (GUIDO)
- Tom Hanchett (INCO)
- ???
- Bill Strahle (GNC)
- ???
- ???
- Gerry Griffin (FLIGHT)
- Bill Pogue (CAPCOM)
- Ken Beers (SURGEON)
- Charlie Harlan (AFD)
- John Temple (O&P)
- Ben James (PAO)
- ???
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Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 47739
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 01-21-2022 09:15 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Buel:
Gerry Griffin offers #13 is not Larry Armstrong.
Larry Armstrong's son came across this thread and confirmed in an email that his father is not pictured. My dad was 6'4. This man [no. 13] is wearing his microphone in his right ear and my dad always wore his in his left ear. Patrick Armstrong also shared a photo showing his father. My Dad is in the photo attached sitting down in the front. He's next to the trash can and to his right is Neil Armstrong.  |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 2774
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 01-21-2022 11:31 AM
I miss my pocket protector. Great photo! |
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