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Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-26-2022 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The new head of Russia's space agency announced on Tuesday (July 26) that Russia will leave the International Space Station after its current commitment expires at the end of 2024, The New York Times reports.
"The decision to leave the station after 2024 has been made," said Yuri Borisov, who was appointed this month to run Roscosmos, a state-controlled corporation in charge of the country's space program.

The pronouncement came during a meeting between Mr. Borisov and President Vladimir Putin of Russia. Mr. Borisov told Mr. Putin that Russia would fulfill its commitments through 2024. "I think that by this time we will begin to form the Russian orbital station," he said.

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posted 07-26-2022 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for perineau   Click Here to Email perineau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow - does that mean that the ISS is finished after 2024?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-26-2022 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, not not necessarily. It doesn't even mean the Russians are finished with the space station in 2024.

At this point, it is just talk. As of this morning, Roscosmos had yet to inform NASA or the other international partners.

Much more needs to happen before this statement can be treated any differently than what Russian officials have said before.

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As noted, NASA has not yet been notified of any plans by Roscosmos to terminate its participation in the station. Space agency officials commented on the news at the ISS Research & Development Conference which is underway in Washington, DC. From SpaceNews:
"We haven't received any official word from the partner as to the news today," said Robyn Gatens, ISS director at NASA Headquarters.

She speculated that the comments referenced Russia's long-term plans for low Earth orbit operations after the ISS, much as NASA is working to stimulate development of commercial space stations to succeed the ISS. "I think the Russians, just like us, are thinking ahead to what's next for them. As we're planning for a transition after 2030 to commercially owned and operated space stations in low Earth orbit, they have similar plans."

Gatens spoke after a live video link with NASA astronauts Kjell Lindgren and Jessica Watkins on the ISS. "We haven't heard anything officially" about Russia's plans, Lindgren said, adding that "everybody is working together" on the station now to carry out research and keep the station functioning. ...

"We're going to go to 2030 full up," said Joel Montalbano, NASA ISS program manager, during comments at the conference. "Anybody who thinks that there is a different plan, you're wrong. We're going to 2030."

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posted 07-26-2022 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dom   Click Here to Email dom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just the new guy trying to please the boss. Personally, I feel the ISS will outlive Putin…

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-26-2022 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Statement from NASA Administrator Bill Nelson:
NASA is committed to the safe operation of the International Space Station through 2030, and is coordinating with our partners. NASA has not been made aware of decisions from any of the partners, though we are continuing to build future capabilities to assure our major presence in low-Earth orbit.

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posted 07-27-2022 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dom:
Personally, I feel the ISS will outlive Putin...
So do I. But rehabilitating Russia won’t happen instantly. And if their space program has got to the manned hardware stage on orbit with the Chinese before he goes.

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posted 07-27-2022 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also don't be fooled by the recent ISS news, as the space station was planned to be operational for about a quarter of a century. (As a reference: Salyut-1 lasted 175 days, Salyut-7 3216 days, Skylab lasted 2249 days and the Mir space station 5510 days = 15 years).

We all know space hardware needs to be replaced (e.g. Soyuz spacecraft docked onto the space station have a "lifetime" of six to eight months and need return before being exposed for that period!).

By November 2022 the oldest ISS components will be 8800 days in space (24 years), so future planning becomes a fact-of-life, also in Low Earth Orbit.

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An interesting take on this in The Guardian today...
Analysis: Fractures in the partnership have appeared before, but if Moscow exits, keeping the station in orbit would not be easy.

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Russian space officials have now told their U.S. counterparts that Moscow expects to remain on the International Space Station at least until their own outpost in orbit is built in 2028, NASA's space operations chief told Reuters.
"We're not getting any indication at any working level that anything's changed," Kathy Lueders, NASA's space operations chief, told Reuters on Wednesday, adding the National Aeronautics and Space Administration relations with Roscosmos remained "business as usual."


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